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CCTV options.

Hello.


Where i live there have been a lot of break ins and attempted break ins and thefts in the past 3 months.
A neighbour who i help out doing odd jobs, gardening and look after his house when he goes on holiday had an attempted break in last week during the day when a man knocked on his door and when got no answer went around the back through his next doord neighbours garden into his and tried to jemmy the metal side door which was locked but luckily/bad for my neighbour was in the house at the time upstairs and came down ant the man ran off when he went to the side door. The police said he had knocked on few doors in the street that day.
I am thinking of getting a cctv set up for my house.
I will only need 2 maybe 3 cameras.
I have a budget of £175 but there are so many options out there. I would like if poss cloud storage as a social club near got done and the burglars took the recording DVR so there was no recording of them.
Can these systems be wifi as i dont realy want loads of cables running to the router.
Ant advice will be very usefull as i dont know much about cctv set ups.
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  • stator
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    Wireless systems cost a lot more and are unreliable.

    I would recommend an AHD DVR 1080p. You can get them for around £60 - £100
    The cameras will cost another £30-£40 each.
    You will need to run a BNC cable from each of the cameras to the DVR. Each camera will also need a power cable.
    In order to connect the DVR to the internet you can use a pair of Home Plug adapters, but that will add another £30 to the cost.
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  • Boohoo
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    Thanks for replying.


    I will look into them later.
    As for the homeplugs i have a pair of TP Link from router to upstairs pc and sat/recorder with catchup as wifi not good upstairs. Only problem is these are dual ethernet sockets as 2 ethernet cables into 1 homeplug but the ones i had before were single but 85mb and different make so may not be compatable but can work around that.
    With the upload to internet is it possible to send the recordings straight to cloud storage as they record as like i said if they steal the dvr then there is no recording.


    Thanks.
  • stator
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    HomePlug AV sockets from different manufacturers will work together.

    Most new CCTV DVRs can be accessed via the internet, but it's stored locally.

    You won't be able to upload all your CCTV. You would max out your ISP upload allowance pretty quickly or they would disconnect you for abusing your connection. So you would have to set it up to upload photos when it detects movement. Not all DVRs would support this, so you would have to check individual reviews.

    Beware there are lots of rubbish units direct from China on eBay so you definitely want to check out reviews.
    Some are advertised as 1080p but if you look at the detail it only outputs video at 1080p, which is useless. Really you want 1080p recording on all channels. At least 15fps but full frame rate recording of 25fps+ is best.
    Some say 1080N, which is not really 1080p, it's a scam.
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  • Boohoo
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    You won't be able to upload all your CCTV. You would max out your ISP upload allowance pretty quickly or they would disconnect you for abusing your connection. So you would have to set it up to upload photos when it detects movement. Not all DVRs would support this, so you would have to check individual reviews.

    Beware there are lots of rubbish units direct from China on eBay so you definitely want to check out reviews.
    Some are advertised as 1080p but if you look at the detail it only outputs video at 1080p, which is useless. Really you want 1080p recording on all channels. At least 15fps but full frame rate recording of 25fps+ is best.
    Some say 1080N, which is not really 1080p, it's a scam.
    I do have unlimited fibre broadband but there must be a FUP in the t&c's.

    I did look at ebay and Amazon so i can get an idea of costs and feedback but some are cheap and i know why now.

    Thanks for the help you have given me so far.
  • aj9648
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    Why are wireless systems unreliable?
  • stator
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    Because the licenced airwaves are crowded. And signals get blocked and distorted by physical objects.
    Any old criminal can buy a wireless jammer to disrupt a wireless CCTV system.
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  • Interested in this myself - what about PoE systems? Are there any decent PoE capable NVR systems that also allow you to pair up wireless cameras (for places that are difficult to wire up)?
  • Boohoo
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    Interested in this myself - what about PoE systems? Are there any decent PoE capable NVR systems that also allow you to pair up wireless cameras (for places that are difficult to wire up)?

    I have still been looking at cctv options.
    I was more leaning towards the PoE type.
    The use of a Lan/Cat5/6 lead i think for my house is the better option.
    I will have 1 camera at the rear of the house covering the back garden and 1 at the rear side corner towards the side/back door pointing to the driveway and the last camera on front covering the driveway and the garden upto the footpath.
    One thing i have noticed is that the cameras have a lead from the camera that you connect the cable to that then goes to the dvd/nvr box. My cables will have to run from the outside walls to the front downstairs lounge and will i have to put weatherproof boxes to protect the cable connections as its not clear to me.
    As for the cable will the cables have to be exterior grade or will the leads that come with kit be ok? Also i will need black leads as i don't want white/grey running all over the exterior walls like next door has after they got Sky multi in 4 rooms 2 years ago and looks a right mess.
  • You should use exterior grade Cat5e/6 as it's not much more expensive and the standard stuff won't stand up to the elements over time.
  • after a break in a few years ago we had external cameras installed - they could do with an upgrade but I have now got Logitech circle cameras inside the house that I am very impressed with - the picture quality is excellent - you can pay for 30 day storage but we keep the free 24 hour storage.
    We bought ours from amazon on offer for £75 and £99 each
    http://www.logitech.com/en-gb/product/circle-2-home-security-camera?WT.mc_id=EMEA_DR_Q4_FY14_SERP&WT.srch=&gclid=EAIaIQobC!!!!43BzKaL1gIVpbftCh2xIgZ5EAAYASAAEgLaMfD_BwE
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