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Accounts of parents with Dementia

Hello
not sure this is the correct board for my question

My Dad is showing fast signs of dementia, or certainly some kind of brain degenerating issue.

He is forgetful, sometimes confused.

With this in mind I'm really worried about his bank account. He also still pays a mortgage - how do we as a family go about taking over power of his accounts if he becomes incapable of doing this himself?

Any guidance would be appreciated here, I think we need to act quickly.

Thanks
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  • alanq
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    edited 15 August 2017 at 11:32AM
    If he still has enough capacity he can create a Lasting Power of Attorney.

    If not then it is a case of applying to the Court Of Protection for a deputyship.

    http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/family/power-of-attorney

    http://www.ageuk.org.uk/money-matters/legal-issues/powers-of-attorney/

    https://www.alzheimers.org.uk/info/20032/legal_and_financial/130/lasting_power_of_attorney
  • polymaff
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    Take Alanq's advice.
  • Mojisola
    Mojisola Posts: 35,571 Forumite
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    IanManc wrote: »
    If your Mum is still alive then one easy practical step is to make all their accounts joint - except for ISAs which can't be joint - so that your Mum can operate them.

    They can also add you to the account as a signatory - you can manage the account but don't have any ownership over the capital.
  • alanq
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    edited 15 August 2017 at 3:53PM
    Once someone has lost capacity only a registered LPA or deputyship are permitted NOT an approved signatory for a bank account. (Ordinary Power Of Attorney)
    See http://www.ageuk.org.uk/money-matters/legal-issues/powers-of-attorney/

    If someone still has capacity it advisable getting an LPA now. Once they have lost capacity it will be too late and obtaining a deputyship is more difficult and expensive.
  • Mojisola
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    kenzie123 wrote: »
    My Dad is showing fast signs of dementia, or certainly some kind of brain degenerating issue.

    He is forgetful, sometimes confused.
    alanq wrote: »
    Once someone has lost capacity only an LPA or deputyship are permitted NOT an approved signatory for a bank account.

    If someone still has capacity it advisable getting an LPA now. Once they have lost capacity it will be too late and obtaining a deputyship is more difficult and expensive.

    If someone has lost capacity, they can't appoint an attorney or a signatory.

    If sounds as if Dad still has capacity at the moment, even if it's only for some periods of time.
  • polymaff
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    Which means follow alanq's original advice - asap.

    I suggest that you explain to your Dad what LPA means - then ask him to explain it back to you 30 minutes later. If he can make a reasonably good job of that - and agrees to the LPA itself - then go ahead.

    It can save an awful lot of heart-ache later on in what is, unfortunately, a progressive, degenerative condition. (and so a bit like life itself).
  • Steve_xx
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    Get LPA's in place for both Finance and Health. Preferably, do this before you seek medical advice regarding his suspected dementia onset.

    Also, you should setup the LPA's yourself, without any solicitor assistance because involving solicitors will in the first instance cause delay and in the second instance will cost you more than is necessary.
  • xylophone
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    Can your father read and understand this

    https://www.gov.uk/power-of-attorney/overview
  • maninthestreet
    maninthestreet Posts: 16,127 Forumite
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    kenzie123 wrote: »
    Hello
    not sure this is the correct board for my question

    My Dad is showing fast signs of dementia, or certainly some kind of brain degenerating issue.

    He is forgetful, sometimes confused.

    With this in mind I'm really worried about his bank account. He also still pays a mortgage - how do we as a family go about taking over power of his accounts if he becomes incapable of doing this himself?

    Any guidance would be appreciated here, I think we need to act quickly.

    Thanks

    Has he actually been diagnosed with dementia??
    "You were only supposed to blow the bl**dy doors off!!"
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 0 Newbie
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    edited 15 August 2017 at 11:23PM
    There was a high court judge on the Today program this morning arguing that Power of Attorney is a really bad idea. In his experience 12.5% of all PoAs are abusive, and in 90% of those, the abuser is the family. Here at 1h52m.

    And here.
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