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Council/company want to demolish inlaws estate

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  • Slinky
    Slinky Posts: 11,053 Forumite
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    Do they actually need a garage? Do they still run a car? Or is it just full of clut?

    Somebody described a 'measly' £5,800 compensation. OK so they're having to move home, presumably to something in much better condition given their current home is condemned. That £5.8K is presumably coming from council tax/general tax receipts. Along with all the other £5.8K compensations on this estate, which I'm guessing has rents a lot in the private rental sector would give their right arm for.

    If they don't like the smaller home they're free to find another in the private rental sector which suits them better.
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  • The Council tax/general tax receipts will soon be getting the benefit of rather more housing units paying them rent than previously.

    Personally - though I've come from a home-owning family and wasnt going to rest until I had my own home (as I now do) - I do agree with the concept of Council housing being available for those that need it.

    Some perfectly hardworking people simply can't afford to buy (or pay private level rents) and I was only able to purchase eventually (much research/"kicking and screaming" about being stuck in rented/etc/etc later) courtesy of a stroke of luck (and research:)).

    £5,800 is measly. That sum of money has to cover all their removal etc costs/cover any work they have to do to new house to make it feel as much "home" as their current one and be compensation for the disruption and be compensation for having a much smaller home. Add all those factors together - and £5,800 is peanuts to cover all that.
  • Norman_Castle
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    Slinky wrote: »
    That £5.8K is presumably coming from council tax/general tax receipts.
    Council housing has a separate budget. It cannot be funded by council tax.
  • Slinky
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    edited 14 August 2017 at 9:41AM
    The Council tax/general tax receipts will soon be getting the benefit of rather more housing units paying them rent than previously.

    And how are these new council houses being built being funded?

    As a homeowner I've always agree there should be council housing for those that qualify, but the fact remains rents are incredibly reasonable by comparison with the private sector whilst many others, probably equally deserving, are forced to pay market rates. They don't get £5.8K to help them move and make their home more like home when a private landlord asks them to move on.
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  • Slinky
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    Council housing has a separate budget. It cannot be funded by council tax.

    But it will be coming out of taxation somewhere, the money hasn't grown on a tree. The measy £5.8K compensation is coming partly from all of our pockets.
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  • PasturesNew
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    There have been many (some crazy) ideas above .... the bottom line is this:

    - They will have to move, it will happen at some point. They need to get their heads around this an "plan with excitement" their move to a new home that will be cheaper to run and "all shiny and new". Yes, it'll be difficult trying to downsize into smaller rooms and they will have to have a big declutter, or spend some money on a good ceiling to floor/wall to wall storage cupboard ... maybe get the builders to build that in from scratch "for free".

    - private renters wouldn't have the luxury of having so long to plan, nor would they get any £5,800 .. and would have to pay new fees to find themselves their next home.

    - they are in a better position than if they'd bought it as compulsory purchases never seem to give people enough money to "buy something similar in the general area".

    While there are issues ... not wanting to move, it'll be smaller ... they do have a nice secure tenancy and the cash help to move.

    The main thing is to get them mentally accepting it - and not trying to fight it, because otherwise it'll just ruin two years of their lives now ... and then, once moved, they'll just be unhappy/moan.

    So, plan for the excitement and new opportunity of moving ... don't mourn what they're losing.
  • moneyistooshorttomention
    moneyistooshorttomention Posts: 17,940 Forumite
    edited 14 August 2017 at 10:36AM
    Slinky wrote: »
    And how are these new council houses being built being funded?

    As a homeowner I've always agree there should be council housing for those that qualify, but the fact remains rents are incredibly reasonable by comparison with the private sector whilst many others, probably equally deserving, are forced to pay market rates. They don't get £5.8K to help them move and make their home more like home when a private landlord asks them to move on.

    No private tenants don't - but two wrongs don't make a right. The fact that one household is treated badly doesn't mean it's okay to do so to another household.

    Part of the reason there is a public sector (for anything) is to try and have publicly accountable decent standards for everyone.

    *******

    "Planning to be excited" etc way of thinking might be one thing - but I would say a more appropriate mindset is "I'm being forced to move against my will and against my own best interests - so now what is the best deal I can get because I'm being forced to do this?"

    I've certainly witnessed someone being on the receiving end of compulsory purchase before now (for instance) and they were put under huge pressure to cave in and accept the deal they were first offered. Eg undesirables being moved in as temporary renters after the owners had given way to pressure/the first offer on table and moved on. I had to admire the way that this person clearly worked out their strategy at the outset and understood that there would be pressure put on and what it was likely to be. They then worked out ways to help themselves cope mentally with the "campaign of intimidation aka pressure" whilst it lasted (eg they took regular weekend breaks away somewhere nice to help their mental state be a positive one).

    The end result come the finish of it all = they decided to ask at the outset for one of the new (and, in this case = better/bigger/more luxurious) properties that were due to be built. They kept getting told they wouldnt get it and would have to take the compulsory purchase price for their property (which they owned - not rented). Eventually - they had their property swopped for owning one of the new properties instead. So they managed to get an improvement out of their situation.
  • Norman_Castle
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    Slinky wrote: »
    And how are these new council houses being built being funded?
    Loans repaid through rental income.
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