Unemployed Graduate 100k dilemma; share your life experience

steampowered

jpuphill wrote: »

I am focused on getting a job and have been for a long time, my expectations have come down and down and down, nearest maccie d's is 30miles away :P haha

I know where you're coming from and I think I will be end up doing something like that but is moving out with no job, trying to get somewhere to rent without a job, then getting minimum wage job a good idea for morale? Because if I'm moving without a job then I can pick anywhere to move to and the open ended nature of that seems to warrant "what the f*** am I doing with my life?!"

Yes, I think getting a minimum wage job would be good for your morale. Jobs give you a sense of self-worth and independence.

It will also help solve the problem described in your opening post - you said "most [employers] do not get back to me as I have zero work experience".

You have to start somewhere. You have to demonstrate that you are employable and that you are capable of getting out of bed in the morning.

The only decision you have to make should be whether you get a job locally or whether you move. I think you have two options:

Option One: Find a job locally (any job). You can then search for a job with better salary and prospects in 6 months time - once you have a job history on your CV.

Option Two: Move to a large city with better employment prospects such as London or Manchester. Use part of your £100k to pay a year's rent up-front on a 1-bed flat or a flat-share. Find a job in the new city - take any job to start with, and search for a job with better salary/prospects while you work.

Both are good options. Personally, I would advise Option 2. It sounds like you are not happy with your living situation. Therefore you need to change it. It sounds to me like you will feel much better about yourself once you have a job and move into your own place.

Option 3 would be to get a menial job abroad, but it sounds like you have ruled this out.

justme111

You doing it again. You arguing against moving with no job. Nobody advised moving without a job , why are you considering it ?
Although in certain circumstances could be benefitial it is not what been advised.
I hear you saying no to non qualified jobs loud and clear. Once you spelled it out instead of arguing how dangerous it was and how it would not lead to emigration. I do not think you can hear us though. I will try to spell it : For multitude of reasons you have not managed to find a job in your field. People say that the reasons that seem to do with you not succeeding could be best deal with by travelling and doing subsistence level jobs. While adding to your CV instead of damaging it as unaccounted for idle time could. Have I managed to explain it ? It would be like a guy asking how to get 6pack but getting irritated on and dismissing suggestions of exercise and sit ups.

jpuphill

I'm confused, I just said:

I think I will be end up doing something like that

Which was backed up with a confirmation:

Option Two: Move to a large city with better employment prospects such as London or Manchester. Use part of your £100k to pay a year's rent up-front on a 1-bed flat or a flat-share. Find a job in the new city - take any job to start with, and search for a job with better salary/prospects while you work.

Both are good options. Personally, I would advise Option 2.

Then you say:

You arguing against moving with no job. Nobody advised moving without a job , why are you considering it ? ... I hear you saying no to non qualified jobs loud and clear.

Moving without a job has been supported by 4 different posters I think, I have been explicitly clear I am considering a broad range of jobs, and my job applications are mostly 'no experience necessary' and low paid (relative I know but sub 10p/h)

Are you disagreeing with me or somebody else?

steampowered

justme111 wrote: »

You doing it again. You arguing against moving with no job. Nobody advised moving without a job , why are you considering it ?

To be fair, I suggested this to the Op.

I don't think the Op needs to move. He could get a job while living at home. However I think moving out is a good idea because it would give his life a jump start.

As the Op has the means to pay a year's rent up-front I do not think he necessarily needs to wait until he has a job before moving. It is much easier to get a job somewhere new when you already live there.

jpuphill wrote: »

I am focused on getting a job and have been for a long time, my expectations have come down and down and down, nearest maccie d's is 30miles away :P haha

To be fair, this is perfectly doable if you have a car. A 1 hour commute each way is pretty normal.

The cost of driving that much every day would not be ideal for a low paid job. But it is fine for a couple of months to build up a work history. The experience will get you ready for a better job or a place on a graduate scheme.

When I used to work at McDs, there were people who used to travel 30 miles or more to get to the restaurant. This was very common for shift managers and store managers who are often moved between different restaurants according to business requirements.

And guess what? Some of those shift managers have now become store managers or area managers. I believe McDs store managers can earn £40k and area managers £70k+, and they can still get promoted further. There are people on the McDs board of directors that started in restaurants and I'm sure they must be making several hundred thousand.

Is any of that detailed in another thread as I'd like to read more

It isn't detailed in another thread but I'm happy to give you the run down.

At school I worked hard and got good grades. That got me into a good university. At university I worked hard and got a good degree.

While at school (during weekends) and university (during holidays), I worked hard at McDonalds. Until I got a car I used to cycle 45minutes each way to get there. I also did a handful of internships which paid expenses only.

The combination of good academics and a history of working hard got me onto a very competitive graduate scheme. Then I moved to London, worked hard in my job and progressed through the organisation.

Now I earn well over £100k in my twenties, with plenty of opportunity to aim for a senior leadership role or move into a different job.

Honestly there is no magic to any of this. You simply have to work hard, gain experience, show a bit of initiative and get on with people. You also have to be prepared to move to where the opportunities are. Everyone has to start somewhere.

Apodemus

jpuphill wrote: »

Well please elaborate...

Clearly my input is anecdotal rather than statistical but I have lived and worked overseas and have seen the constant inflow and outflow of people doing different jobs. Often people arrive for one purpose and stay for another. Yes, they sometimes have to leave on their tourist visa and return on a business or temporary work visa - all just part of the game. These sort of opportunities are not part of any formal recruitment process, so they will not appear on the web.

In fact, even in this country, I think the jobs market is much less formalised than you may think. I know people who have built successful careers having started out by just visiting corporate HQ repeatedly and lobbying for the organisation to hire them. Also students who drop out in favour of staying in the company who have given them a summer job and will provide them with technical training.

justme111

Steampowered , you talked about moving out even without a job(post 62) AFTER op started stating it was not a good idea to move out without a job (post 60) drawing his attention to although not ideal it still being an option. OP, if you can find anybody suggesting moving out without a job was a good idea and anything but a desperate measure before you started to argue it was not I will accept I was wrong. It may be a good exercise for you to get an insight into your perception.
I do not disagree with you as you saying different things in different posts - in one you say you probably will take on any job , in another you make it clear you do not wish to be given suggestions that include one as you are after a graduate job.
People think travelling and working will do you good and explain why , you disagree - fair enough, there is nothing to argue about. I think steampowered and apodemus written excellent replies , I have repeated myself a few times already in this thread so I will wish you luck, in the end all will be fine.

thenewcomer

i could not finish reading all the replies.

i assume you are a fresh degree graduate in your 20s? with over 100k pounds net worth at such young age, you can invest and live off the investment income.

thenewcomer

when i graduated, i had less than 2k lol

Cakeguts

In situations like this you start by volunteering. Where is your nearest charity shop? While volunteering in a charity shop you get work experience in customer care and money handling. With this experience you should be able to get a job doing something else. Any job will do it doesn't even have to be full time.

bowlhead99

Cakeguts: maybe you didn't notice but this thread was dead for six months before 'thenewcomer' reopened it to make a couple of posts in their inimitable style. The OP has not logged into the forum since last August, so will probably not be answering your question about their nearest charity shop.