Handing in notice after holiday

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I am doing this on holiday whilst serving notice - it gave Mum & Dad the biggest chuckle from the to leave employer asking me to cancel annual leave to the point (which I'm grateful for - the laugh and couldn't believe being asked to cancel annual leave) where they won't provide a reference until I'm gone (in a corner and having to work extra time)

I'm pleased to say the new employer relented on their request of reference requested. They had wanted reference before I was able to start. I offered to show payslips of 100% attendance and contractor feedback etc but new employer says they are not bothered anymore. So that's the old employer's plan of losing me a new job gone. Worked for the particular company twice so I'm now thinking I likely didn't mis hear first time any reference was requested and then sounded very odd...

No body wants to do the wrong thing but boy have I learned sometimes you can't be helped to avoid doing so.

gettingtheresometime

ScorpiondeRooftrouser wrote: »

Have you ever known this happen? I have never, personally, ever come across or heard of a situation where a company finds out someone is leaving on receiving a reference request. Not from either side of the fence.

No because I've never done it.

I've always forewarned employers that a request is on its way as I consider it good manners even when I've worked for complete barstewards

getmore4less

be carefull,

if you hand your notice in on a monday your finish date is the following Monday not the Friday.

contract can overide the statutory notice periods, eg they could have a no holidays during notice clause.

You could hand in your notice while on holiday to make sure you have the full week and finish in time to start the new job.

Guest101

if they feel a week's notice is enough for them as a business, then that's what I would give.

ScorpiondeRooftrouser

gettingtheresometime wrote: »

No because I've never done it.

I've always forewarned employers that a request is on its way as I consider it good manners even when I've worked for complete barstewards

That's the point, I have never know it be necessary to warn them. I have never known a request for a reference arrive at an employer, whether for me or anyone else, before the person in question has resigned.

sangie595

ScorpiondeRooftrouser wrote: »

That's the point, I have never know it be necessary to warn them. I have never known a request for a reference arrive at an employer, whether for me or anyone else, before the person in question has resigned.

But the individual has accepted another job and the employer will want references. So they are very likely going to contact the current employer - why wouldn't they? And they don't need "permission" - providing a name as a reference is the permission they need. They might wait until making an offer, but they aren't going to wait after that - many applications have space to say not to contact until an offer is made, but the offer is made. And that's setting aside that I know plenty of employers who won't even confirm an offer until the references are received, so your experience isn't the norm. Getmore4less is correct - the way to do this is to hand in notice whilst on holiday - and not unless you have a confirmed offer. As we have seen before now, even a confirmed offer is worth little - an unconfirmed one is worth nothing.

Fireflyaway

Go and enjoy your holiday and then give them a weeks notice when you return. I understand being nice and giving them 3 weeks notice seems considerate but they might just ask you to go. I know if this were me I'd worry on my holiday I'd come back to unwelcome news. You are not doing anything wrong as they only require a weeks notice anyway.

Stylehutz

getmore4less wrote: »

be carefull,

if you hand your notice in on a monday your finish date is the following Monday not the Friday.

contract can overide the statutory notice periods, eg they could have a no holidays during notice clause.

You could hand in your notice while on holiday to make sure you have the full week and finish in time to start the new job.

Technically correct but any decent employer will allow you to go on Friday in a Monday to Friday job. I don't think the employer or op's boss would appreciate it by contacting them on a weekend day off.

ScorpiondeRooftrouser

sangie595 wrote: »

But the individual has accepted another job and the employer will want references. So they are very likely going to contact the current employer - why wouldn't they? And they don't need "permission" - providing a name as a reference is the permission they need. They might wait until making an offer, but they aren't going to wait after that - many applications have space to say not to contact until an offer is made, but the offer is made. And that's setting aside that I know plenty of employers who won't even confirm an offer until the references are received, so your experience isn't the norm. Getmore4less is correct - the way to do this is to hand in notice whilst on holiday - and not unless you have a confirmed offer. As we have seen before now, even a confirmed offer is worth little - an unconfirmed one is worth nothing.

To be fair I misread the OP's situation. I am just saying I have never know a reference be requested before an offer subject to references has been made, at which point you hand your notice in. In no company I have worked for have we ever become aware of an employee leaving due to receiving a reference request, to my knowledge.

ThemeOne

I have also known references not to be taken up for some time after the person has started their new job - ridiculous, I know, but my point is you can never be 100% sure how these things will be handled.