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can residential management company make me get rid of a pet, as the homeowner?

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  • Polly05
    Polly05 Posts: 379 Forumite
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    eddddy wrote: »
    No - it's the lease that the OP needs to read for rules (covenants) about keeping pets.

    It sounds like the OP has a very standard leasehold arrangement (for England and Wales). Nothing at all unusual.


    How does the management company know what's in their lease?
  • eddddy
    eddddy Posts: 18,000 Forumite
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    edited 19 July 2017 at 8:41PM
    Polly05 wrote: »
    How does the management company know what's in their lease?

    There are (usually) two parties to a lease a Freeholder and a Leaseholder.

    The lease says what each party must do.

    If a freeholder doesn't want to do stuff themselves, they employ a management company (or managing agent) to do it for them.

    So the freeholder gives the management company copies of the leases, so the management company knows what to do.

    So normally the freeholder might enforce the 'no pets' rule, but in this case the freeholder has employed a management company to enforce this (and other) rules.



    Edit to add...

    And in the OP's lease, the freeholder is also responsible for looking after the garden. So the management company do that for the freeholder as well.
  • G_M
    G_M Posts: 51,977 Forumite
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    Oh good grief!

    Jiggly, go to the Land Registry website here and search for your address.

    Look to see if that address has a leasehold title and/or a freehold title.

    Buy each of them for £3 each.

    Then look to see who owns the freehold and who owns the leasehold.

    Which one(or both) do you own?
  • DoaM
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    G_M wrote: »
    Jiggly, go to the Land Registry website here and search for your address.

    Is there an equivalent (online search) for Scotland? I found Registers of Scotland but this doesn't seem to have an equivalent search to the LR (that I can find).
  • davidmcn
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    Polly05 wrote: »
    So, I'm in Scotland and don't really understand leasehold things but, even if it was written into the leasehold rules that you can't have pets, how would the management company paid to take care of the common ground even know what's in their lease documents?
    Surely it's the management company paperwork the OP should be reading through?

    I think its shocking that there are rules that you can't have pets in a property that u own!

    We don't have leasehold residential properties in Scotland but in any modern development you're still likely to have a Deed of Conditions with various rules about what you can do in your property, usually with restrictions on pets (not often a blanket prohibition though).
    DoaM wrote: »
    Is there an equivalent (online search) for Scotland?

    There is, but not available to the public - you need to contact customer services and ask them for what you want.
  • patman99
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    It could be a similar set up to where I live. Whereby the freehold is owned by a company that is whilst owned in equal parts by the owners of each property.

    We have a number of directors who have to be owners.

    We appointed a management company to run the day-to-day running of the site.
    We decided which parts of the lease the Management company should ignore and they do as we ask.

    Op, if this is the sort of set up you have, then to keep within the Law, there would need to be an AGM every year at which all current directors have to resign and place themselves for re-election.

    By the way, surely your household waste is collected by the Council?.
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  • lopsyfa
    lopsyfa Posts: 474 Forumite
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    Or you can search for your property here (http://landregistry.data.gov.uk/app/ppd) to know if it is leasehold or freehold. It is free and you get the result instantly.
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