Penalty Charge for mistake on Dental claim form

Guest101

woeestme wrote: »

Are you seriously saying private companies are not involved in the provision of services in the NHS and dubious allocation of grants are given to these private companies?

I just phoned them again and they informed me the money goes back into "the NHS frontline services", which is a euphemism for extra theft of tax money. See my post #23.

I rest my case, gatekeepers! Good day!

Private companies are pivotal to the running of the NHS - over 90% of GPs are privately employed.


This penalty does not go directly to a private company. YOU are stealing from the taxpayer....

antrobus

Guest101 wrote: »

Private companies are pivotal to the running of the NHS - over 90% of GPs are privately employed. ...

Privately self-employed you mean.:)

As are most dentists as well.

But then chunks of the NHS have always been delivered by private companies, pharmacies, opticians, and so forth.

Guest101 wrote: »

..This penalty does not go directly to a private company. YOU are stealing from the taxpayer....

And technically fraud. Which is a criminal offence. I don't know whether anyone has ever been done for falsely claiming a dental charge exemption (no one wants to go to the dentist).

Guest101

antrobus wrote: »

Privately self-employed you mean.:) - well strictly speaking it's a mixed bag. Some GPs are employed directly by the surgery, on a contract and wage, others are partners and in essence self employed (sort of)

As are most dentists as well. - indeed

But then chunks of the NHS have always been delivered by private companies, pharmacies, opticians, and so forth. - ye but don't tell the OP



And technically fraud. Which is a criminal offence. I don't know whether anyone has ever been done for falsely claiming a dental charge exemption (no one wants to go to the dentist).

The courts would be too busy

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parkrunner

woeestme wrote: »

No, the person at NHS Business Services Authority stated it would just go down as an unsettled debt on my credit record. No bailiffs, no extra fines.

Anyway, this is a business plan by the NHS Business Services authority; they know full well people make this mistake on their dental records form and so if they impose an uncontestable penalty charge it guarantees a nice little earner for those who cooked up the scam.

Either you never spoke to them or they have given you duff information, because I can assure you people are taken to court for this.

jessex1990

IAmWales wrote: »

What is confusing about the terminology? They are very clear to me and the thousands of others who collect their prescriptions without a problem.

The penalty does not "exploit" those on benefits, it punishes those that choose to avoid paying. Given how stretched the NHS is, this can only be a good thing.

The money goes back into the NHS. No private company is involved in the process, assuming people pay up when they should.

It doesn't punish people on benefits it punishes those who falsely claim to be on a certain type of benefit to avoid paying it. Big difference

Income based is means tested is for poor people and contribution based is for richer people who have paid enough national insurance. When you look at it that way it's quite obvious which type of ESA would have been eligible and which wouldn't.

You made the false declaration, be grateful they are just fining you rather than locking you up for benefit fraud

Energize

Guest101 wrote: »

No no, they will. It goes to court, you get a fine and bailiffs come to seize your property.


Given I work for the NHS and have no interest in your ramblings - no, I couldn't care less

Bailiffs can't force entry to a residential property though so the court is pretty impotent in this matter.

Guest101

They can seize property e.g. A vehicle and they can make peaceful entry e.g. Open door or window.

dippy3103

Just a thought. But would you qualify for free dental treatment on low income grounds? I'm sure you probably looked into this on account of knowing so much (other than if you are on ESA IB or C)

Geoff1963

I think the OP has gone . . .