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What would you need to know as a LL if a tenant wanted an OH to move in?

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  • FBaby
    FBaby Posts: 18,367 Forumite
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    The attitude is because the LL is not the tenants mum or dad. It's nothing to do with them
    Yeah, but every time a tenant wants something here that the LL doesn't have to give, we always suggest the 'tea and cake' approach, so returning the suggestion here.

    What does OP got to lose telling her LL? She does have something to gain by being considerate though by providing them with relevant information.
  • paddypaws101
    paddypaws101 Posts: 2,093 Forumite
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    AdrianC wrote: »
    I'm sure it isn't unusual. A more relevant question is whether it's enforceable.
    Maybe not through a Section 8 but certainly enough of a breach of contract to push many landlords into serving section 21.
  • Guest101
    Guest101 Posts: 15,764 Forumite
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    My tenancy agreements include a clause which state that only the named tenants can reside at the property and I don't think that is an unusual clause.
    Nor is it an enforceable clause.....
  • Guest101
    Guest101 Posts: 15,764 Forumite
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    Maybe not through a Section 8 but certainly enough of a breach of contract to push many landlords into serving section 21.
    In which case where's the upside of telling them?
  • aneary
    aneary Posts: 921 Forumite
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    Guest101 wrote: »
    In which case where's the upside of telling them?


    If everyone followed your advised they would be waiting for a section 21 get evicted via the courts then having to pay more letting fees, getting a poor reference (if any) from the previous LL again and again.

    Sometimes it's worth following the LLs reasonable requests to live a quiet and less stressful life.
  • Guest101
    Guest101 Posts: 15,764 Forumite
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    aneary wrote: »
    If everyone followed your advised they would be waiting for a section 21 - Well how else does one know the LL doesn't want them there any longer? get evicted via the courts - the ONLY way to be evicted? then having to pay more letting fees - that's optional , getting a poor reference (if any) from the previous LL again and again. - funnily enough, in over a decade of renting, I've never been served with a s.21 notice and have never had any issues, despite following my own advice on how to deal with LLs. Once I had a LL try to withhold my deposit. It was laughable, she accused me of harassment for using the arbitration service.

    Sometimes it's worth following the LLs reasonable requests to live a quiet and less stressful life.



    I guess that's where we disagree, I don't think this is a reasonable request.
  • bxboards
    bxboards Posts: 1,711 Forumite
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    I'm not sure whether Guest101 is being bloody minded, difficult for the sake of it, or here for 5 minute argument or the full half an hour! But there is little merit in being stubborn for a sake of it, and taking a contrary position that could risk damaging a good tenant - LL landlord relationship.

    Certainly as far as landlord insurance goes, one of the questions is 'number of occupants' and whether they are employed / not employed / asylum seeker etc. The quote will change depending on this The landlord is also under an obligation to inform their insurance company of any material changes which may affect the tenancy. I would have concerns about voiding that insurance if extra occupants sneak in.

    I cannot really see any merit behind Guest101's position, at the very least good manners cost nothing, and most landlords wish to know who is living in the house - as do most LL insurance policies.

    I think the original poster shows good manners and consideration for her LL, and I think they should as a courtesy inform them.
  • Guest101
    Guest101 Posts: 15,764 Forumite
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    bxboards wrote: »
    I'm not sure whether Guest101 is being bloody minded, difficult for the sake of it, or here for 5 minute argument or the full half an hour! - I prefer ...is being accurate. But there is little merit in being stubborn for a sake of it, and taking a contrary position that could risk damaging a good tenant - LL landlord relationship. - indeed, a business relationship which has no scope to enter ones personal life.

    Certainly as far as landlord insurance goes, one of the questions is 'number of occupants' and whether they are employed / not employed / asylum seeker etc. - How would the LL know when this status changes? The quote will change depending on this The landlord is also under an obligation to inform their insurance company of any material changes which may affect the tenancy. - That is something for the LL to deal with, not the tenant. I would have concerns about voiding that insurance if extra occupants sneak in. - How does that affect the tenant?

    I cannot really see any merit behind Guest101's position, at the very least good manners cost nothing, and most landlords wish to know who is living in the house - as do most LL insurance policies. - I wish for a million pounds.....

    I think the original poster shows good manners and consideration for her LL, and I think they should as a courtesy inform them.
    Read the board a bit more and you'll work out my position.
  • Merrie
    Merrie Posts: 18 Forumite
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    Just to add, if and when he does move in with all his belongings you will have to let the council know anyway, for the council tax reduction. I know you are going to tell them, just don't delay it.
    Good luck to you both :)
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