PCN Appeal Euro Parking Services Ltd

JBIrd

Hi,


I am currently going through the appeals process with Euro Parking Services Ltd for a ticket that was not displayed (it had fallen off). I still have the original ticket. So far I have followed the procedures recommended for members of the IPC. They have of course rejected my appeal - the latest one citing the Beavis case. I have done lots of research on this forum and have responded citing why the Beavis case is not applicable in this case (the car park charged per hour as opposed to 2 free hours parking) and quoted the court judgement.


My question is, do I send to arbitration when they inevitably come back with another rejection, or is this the time to start ignoring? I am prepared to risk them taking me to court as I feel happy to argue that I did pay and that the charge of £100 far exceeds the pre-estimate of loss (which I stated in my original).


Thanks for any help in advance

fisherjim

Pre estimate of loss argument is dead in the water since Beavis, and arguably their second stage of appeal is considered a waste of time as they are just a bunch of scammers supporting the ppc's that pay them.

Edna_Basher

JBIrd wrote: »

I am currently going through the appeals process with Euro Car Parks .......... So far I have followed the procedures recommended for members of the IPC.

Euro Car Parks Limited are an accredited BPA operator, not IPC. In their standard rejection letter, they should have provided you with a 10 digit POPLA Code.

Coupon-mad

JBIrd wrote: »

Hi,

I am currently going through the appeals process with Euro Car Parks for a ticket that was not displayed (it had fallen off). I still have the original ticket. So far I have followed the procedures recommended for members of the IPC. They have of course rejected my appeal - the latest one citing the Beavis case. I have done lots of research on this forum and have responded citing why the Beavis case is not applicable in this case (the car park charged per hour as opposed to 2 free hours parking) and quoted the court judgement.

My question is, do I send to arbitration when they inevitably come back with another rejection, or is this the time to start ignoring? I am prepared to risk them taking me to court as I feel happy to argue that I did pay and that the charge of £100 far exceeds the pre-estimate of loss (which I stated in my original).

If this is ECP, they are in the BPA and we win at POPLA almost every time, so not sure what made you think POPLA was pointless?

If this is ECP, what's the 'date of issue' and what is the 'date' below that (top right on the first postal PCN)?


Your advice/appeal is out of date and would not win. DO NOT argue this at POPLA stage:

I feel happy to argue that I did pay and that the charge of £100 far exceeds the pre-estimate of loss (which I stated in my original).

Don't be, that was pointless in the appeal and I hope you didn't appeal as driver?

JBIrd

Thank you for your replies,


I didn't appeal as the driver, just the keeper. Sorry, I am a bit confused by all the acronyms! I was under the impression that companies are either a member of BPA or IPC (if at all). The company is Euro Parking Services Ltd not Euro Car Parks - sorry my mistake. I believe it is a member of the IPC.


I appealed as soon as I got the notice, which I am now presuming I shouldn't have done!!! I read the advice on the moneysavingexpert website, which I now realise again was not the advice given in the forums. The appeal is currently going back and forwards with the IAS. Every time I post my response they just come back with something else. There is an option to refer the case straight to arbitration but I'm not sure if that's the right thing to do?


Thanks again

Coupon-mad

The company is Euro Parking Services Ltd not Euro Car Parks I believe it is a member of the IPC.

Thought as much, reading between the lines, which is why I said ''if'' twice!

There is an option to refer the case straight to arbitration but I'm not sure if that's the right thing to do?

Absolutely categorically NOT. You are talking about the 'non-standard' IAS, costing you £15 to throw away all your legal rights and lose, giving you nowhere to go. Covered in the NEWBIES thread post #3, never ever use that £15 IAS rubbish.

Sit tight, come back at court stage, and we do win.

JBIrd

Do I just ignore from now on? How likely are they to issue court proceedings?

Quentin

Yes.

Euro parking services do court currently for less than 10% of tickets issued. They have 6 years to start legal action

Fruitcake

Please use the edit then advanced edit facility and correct the name in the thread title, and anywhere else in your posts.

Coupon-mad

JBIrd wrote: »

Do I just ignore from now on?

When we say 'sit tight and come back at court stage', why do so many people always question what 'sit tight' means?!

How likely are they to issue court proceedings?

The NEWBIES thread already tells you this, where it tells people they can simply Google search the name of the parking firm and 'BMPA Insight'.

JBIrd

Ok, thanks for all of your info. However, I know it's annoying that people ask the same questions, but there is an awful lot of info on here! I have taken the time to read as much as I can, but it does get a bit confusing.