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Parking Eye Ticket - Driver Lives Abroad

Greetings, I wonder if someone would be able to help me?
I recently received a parking ticket from Parking Eye for parking in a Morrsions carpark (Stratford, London) for 20 minutes without a ticket. I am the registered keeper of the vehicle, however, I was not driving the vehicle at the time. The driver is ordinarily resident abroad.

I understand that it was raining on the day and the driver was feeling unwell at the wheel. Consequently, the driver pulled up at the carpark and sat in the vehicle for twenty minutes before driving off. At no time did the driver leave the vehicle.

I was wondering how to go about appealing the ticket? Should I name the driver who resides abroad, or simply appeal, without naming the driver, using the standard newbie appeal template already provided elsewhere on this forum? I have noticed from my research on this forum, that mitigating circumstances generally have a low 'win' rate and I wondered what chances one has ?

I thank you for your anticipated help in this matter and I look forward to any advice on appealing this ticket.

Thanks again.
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  • The_Deep
    The_Deep Posts: 16,830 Forumite
    Why bother to appeal? Just send the PPC the driver's address. There is not a lot they can do if the driver does not want to pay.
    You never know how far you can go until you go too far.
  • Umkomaas
    Umkomaas Posts: 43,484 Forumite
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    Email complaint to the CEO of Morrisons. Do a forum search on 'donotreply' and use that email address (even though it says 'donotreply').

    Every complaint sent as above results in a cancellation.
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

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  • DoaM
    DoaM Posts: 11,863 Forumite
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    The driver parked. Not leaving the vehicle is irrelevant.

    Your choices are two-fold ...

    1) Follow the NEWBIES guide and get this killed off via POPLA (ultimately); OR

    2) Respond to PE to give the name and address (overseas) of the driver, and make it clear to PE that you've now discharged any keeper liability by notifying them of the driver.

    AND - complain to Morrisons as above.
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 153,316 Forumite
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    Brandt wrote: »
    Greetings, I wonder if someone would be able to help me?
    I recently received a parking ticket from Parking Eye for parking in a Morrsions carpark (Stratford, London) for 20 minutes.

    These are so easy and are cancelled by Morrisons every day, even with no receipt. All you needed to do was search the parking forum for 'Morrisons' and you'd be halfway to a cancellation already.

    I have noticed from my research on this forum, that mitigating circumstances generally have a low 'win' rate
    Hence why that's not how we appeal.

    See the NEWBIES thread and if you want to name the driver abroad, do so but warn them they might get a stupid badly-translated 'PCN' to laugh at soon. PE send them to various countries, all a pile of steaming crap.
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
  • Brandt
    Brandt Posts: 7 Forumite
    The Deep, thank you for your time and advise.
    I will provide the driver's overseas details to Parking Eye and also email the CEO of Morrison with the aim of canceling the ticket. I promise to report back on the outcome.

    Kind regards.
  • Brandt
    Brandt Posts: 7 Forumite
    UmKomaas, thank you for your advice. I was able to find the CEO's email address and I aim to draft and send a message today. I promise to touch base again as soon as I get a response.

    I am very grateful.

    With kind regards.
  • Umkomaas
    Umkomaas Posts: 43,484 Forumite
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    Brandt wrote: »
    The Deep, thank you for your time and advise.
    I will provide the driver's overseas details to Parking Eye and also email the CEO of Morrison with the aim of canceling the ticket. I promise to report back on the outcome.

    Kind regards.

    If there's still time before your initial appeal deadline to PE is up, do the Morrisons complaint first.

    Ms will be cancelling the charge for you (the keeper), not the driver, if you send the complaint. But if you simultaneously notify PE of the driver's details, they will straight away try to pursue the driver (albeit with little prospect of success) who will be hassled with letters etc, and in their (PE) eyes, the charge still stands (but now against the driver).

    So see how Ms respond, then reassess if necessary. If it's cancelled, that's it, no need to contact PE any further.
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street
  • Brandt
    Brandt Posts: 7 Forumite
    edited 4 July 2017 at 9:26AM
    DoaM, I am grateful for your time and suggestions. Following your advice ( and others on this thread), I will proceed with option 2. I will also make a complaint to Morrisons. Hopefully, I would be able to get this ticket rescinded.

    I promise to report back as things unfold.

    With regards.
  • Brandt
    Brandt Posts: 7 Forumite
    Coupon-mad wrote: »
    These are so easy and are cancelled by Morrisons every day, even with no receipt. All you needed to do was search the parking forum for 'Morrisons' and you'd be halfway to a cancellation already.



    Hence why that's not how we appeal.

    See the NEWBIES thread and if you want to name the driver abroad, do so but warn them they might get a stupid badly-translated 'PCN' to laugh at soon. PE send them to various countries, all a pile of steaming crap.

    Hallo Coupon-Mad, thanks a bunch for your counsel. I will now furnish Parking Eye with the details of the driver, as well as email the CEO at Morrisons. I will aslo forewarn the driver to expect a " pile of steaming crap" ( what a classic :T)

    I will relate again as things unfold.

    Thank you once again.

    With regards.
  • Umkomaas
    Umkomaas Posts: 43,484 Forumite
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    I will now furnish Parking Eye with the details of the driver, as well as email the CEO at Morrisons. I will aslo forewarn the driver to expect a " pile of steaming crap" ( what a classic )
    No need if you follow my advice and complain to Ms and get the cancellation in your hand, then there's no need to make any contact with PE, and the driver is then completely out of the loop.

    The only caveat is if you hear nothing (or a negative response) from Morrisons and your deadline for your appeal to PE is looming, that's the time to consider identifying the driver.
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street
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