Management Company Not Providing Fire Risk Assessment

Crsaun

Thanks for the comments.


The management company are just refusing me (the buyer) a copy.


Well, I know an FRA is just for the common areas i.e. stairwells and corridors etc., but for a large tower block this adds up. I've seen FRA templates which do not seem too onerous but I agree that £120 is at the lower end of the spectrum.

aneary

Crsaun wrote: »

Thanks for the comments.


The management company are just refusing me (the buyer) a copy.


Well, I know an FRA is just for the common areas i.e. stairwells and corridors etc., but for a large tower block this adds up. I've seen FRA templates which do not seem too onerous but I agree that £120 is at the lower end of the spectrum.

Well ask the seller to ask the management company for a copy.

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this is bizarre, is the management company a member of ARMA? As providing the FRA is a standard question on the LPE1 leasehold enquiry form that ARMA developed with the Law Society, RICS etc

That said we wouldn't provide it to a buyer, only our leaseholder or their solicitors (the vendor).

I cannot understand how you can get one carried out for £120. The assessor will need to survey the whole building - will they even be able to gain access to all the common areas, landlord's roof voids, landlord cupboard with pipes etc?

If the landlord really won't provide to their leaseholder i'd be threatening to pull out as i'd be massively concerned about what they are hiding.....and if major works are needed to meet Future regs the cost that these will be and the implications for this on my service charge, once i'd bought it

xylophone

The leaseholder could ask his solicitor to check whether he has a legal right to to sight of the FRA - if so, the solicitor could request it with a threat of court action for non compliance.

sheff6107

Management companies will usually supply these things for a fee. If they are passing over such an opportunity to make a profit it sounds like they don't have it.

Crsaun

Update: the management company are not willing to providing the FRA to the owner of the flat. However, they've said that my solicitor can make an appointment to go to their offices and see the FRA. Hopefully I can get this sorted this week!

Crsaun

My solicitor is insisting that a copy of the FRA is needed for my file and the option to arrange an appointment with the management company to see the FRA is not an option.


I have contacted the management company myself and they are still refusing to provide a copy to my solicitor saying that it is a constantly changing document.


I have asked the current owner of the flat to request a copy and they said they can't get one either.


I really don't know what to do. Any suggestions? Should I just pull out of the purchase?


Thanks.

AdrianC

Your solicitor can insist all he likes. It's your decision. There is no legal requirement.

phill99

Something tells me they don't have one. Or it is so out of date that in the light of the West London fire they know that it is inadequate.

Crsaun

I know the management company has a FRA because I spoke to the London Fire Brigade and they said they performed a fire audit on this building within the last 12 months (which included the FRA) and no issues were found. This is why this situation is so crazy: the MC has an FRA and won't give it to me or the landlord.