Support needed for my ET Claim - Disability Discrimination + Constructive Dismissal

CYPER

sangie595 wrote: »

I am sorry, but employment tribunal by remote control just isn't possible. You cannot expect people here to guide you through even the most basic of steps, every inch of the way, and without any knowledge of anything. A quick "point in question" is one thing, but the level of the questions that you are repeatedly asking says that you are totally unprepared for going to a tribunal. This board really isn't designed for what you want. As far as I know, there isn't anywhere that is.

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.. and past that I must echo Undervalued's comment - you really need to look for some method of getting advice or support. Or you must do a lot more research yourself. We cannot answer a flow of questions about multiple aspects in the detail that you want. Sorry, but hand holding of this degree isn't possible.

In that case, can I ask you politely to not participate in this thread.
Your posts are the exact definition of patronising as commented by IAmWales.
I find them passive aggressive and not really helping.
You have very limited information about me and my case, therefore you are in no position to say that I am totally unprepared.
I bought that book, I read that book and my very specific question is not answered there.

So if you have nothing constructive to say, please refrain from posting in this thread. Let other people who are genuinely positive contribute.

I would appreciate if you restrain yourself from further polemics on your rights to participate in my thread. I know this a free forum where everyone can voice their opinion. I just ask you nicely to go find other threads to do this. Thank you.

Crazy_Jamie

CYPER wrote: »

Thanks. So then how it is best to apply another case to my own case. Do I just mention it to the Judge?

After the witness evidence is completed, both sides then get the chance to make closing submissions, essentially explaining why they should win. That is the time to make reference to case law.

Undervalued

CYPER wrote: »

In that case, can I ask you politely to not participate in this thread.
Your posts are the exact definition of patronising as commented by IAmWales.
I find them passive aggressive and not really helping.
You have very limited information about me and my case, therefore you are in no position to say that I am totally unprepared.
I bought that book, I read that book and my very specific question is not answered there.

So if you have nothing constructive to say, please refrain from posting in this thread. Let other people who are genuinely positive contribute.

I would appreciate if you restrain yourself from further polemics on your rights to participate in my thread. I know this a free forum where everyone can voice their opinion. I just ask you nicely to go find other threads to do this. Thank you.

Sometimes the best advice is that which you least want to hear!

CYPER

Crazy_Jamie wrote: »

After the witness evidence is completed, both sides then get the chance to make closing submissions, essentially explaining why they should win. That is the time to make reference to case law.

So what is the correct way to make reference?
Do I just say in my closing submission something along the lines: "and I believe that my case is alike the case of The Government Legal Service v Brookes UKEAT/0302/16/RN in all relevant aspects"

sangie595

CYPER wrote: »

In that case, can I ask you politely to not participate in this thread.
Your posts are the exact definition of patronising as commented by IAmWales.
I find them passive aggressive and not really helping.
You have very limited information about me and my case, therefore you are in no position to say that I am totally unprepared.
I bought that book, I read that book and my very specific question is not answered there.

So if you have nothing constructive to say, please refrain from posting in this thread. Let other people who are genuinely positive contribute.

I would appreciate if you restrain yourself from further polemics on your rights to participate in my thread. I know this a free forum where everyone can voice their opinion. I just ask you nicely to go find other threads to do this. Thank you.

This is a public forum, and if you do not want people to comment, do not post on it. I do indeed have very limited information about you and your case - which is precisely the point I made to you! You are expecting advice from people in specific detail, and that book does, in fact, cover exactly the process of a hearing and what happens in what order. You had already had an explanation of exactly what a witness statement is, and a template of how to write one, but then came back twice along very basic questions about putting things in witness statements that are not things you witnessed. These are very, very basic things.

It is not bad advice to tell you that you need to get help or to do more work on understanding the process. It is practical and essential advice. With respect, if, as you claim, you know what your are doing and have read and understood that book, then you aren't going to be here asking if you can put case law arguments in a witness statement. Or asking if you can contact other people to see what they witnessed to put in your witness statement. These are fundamentals.

Just because you don't like the advice doesn't mean it isn't the best advice you will get.

And I will post where I like. You don't have a say in that.

Undervalued

sangie595 wrote: »

This is a public forum, and if you do not want people to comment, do not post on it. I do indeed have very limited information about you and your case - which is precisely the point I made to you! You are expecting advice from people in specific detail, and that book does, in fact, cover exactly the process of a hearing and what happens in what order. You had already had an explanation of exactly what a witness statement is, and a template of how to write one, but then came back twice along very basic questions about putting things in witness statements that are not things you witnessed. These are very, very basic things.

It is not bad advice to tell you that you need to get help or to do more work on understanding the process. It is practical and essential advice. With respect, if, as you claim, you know what your are doing and have read and understood that book, then you aren't going to be here asking if you can put case law arguments in a witness statement. Or asking if you can contact other people to see what they witnessed to put in your witness statement. These are fundamentals.

Just because you don't like the advice doesn't mean it isn't the best advice you will get.

And I will post where I like. You don't have a say in that.

My thoughts exactly!

k3lvc

CYPER wrote: »

In that case, can I ask you politely to not participate in this thread.
Your posts are the exact definition of patronising as commented by IAmWales.
I find them passive aggressive and not really helping.
You have very limited information about me and my case, therefore you are in no position to say that I am totally unprepared.
I bought that book, I read that book and my very specific question is not answered there.

So if you have nothing constructive to say, please refrain from posting in this thread. Let other people who are genuinely positive contribute.

I would appreciate if you restrain yourself from further polemics on your rights to participate in my thread. I know this a free forum where everyone can voice their opinion. I just ask you nicely to go find other threads to do this. Thank you.

Seriously bad call - alienating one of the most experienced members because you're not getting you the answer you want a) isn't good protocol and b) leads me to want to put money on how your case is going to go (and it shouldn't surprise you that this isn't in your favour)

Maybe a reconsidering of attitude will let you re-evaluate how (or even whether) you pursue this case because sure as hell arrogance and self belief aren't going to win it for you

Crazy_Jamie

CYPER wrote: »

So what is the correct way to make reference?
Do I just say in my closing submission something along the lines: "and I believe that my case is alike the case of The Government Legal Service v Brookes UKEAT/0302/16/RN in all relevant aspects"

Yes, just like that. Though you don't need to include the reference. Chances are the Judge will already be aware of it, but if not you can refer them to the copy of the judgment, or the part of the judgment that you say is relevant.

CYPER

Crazy_Jamie wrote: »

Yes, just like that. Though you don't need to include the reference. Chances are the Judge will already be aware of it, but if not you can refer them to the copy of the judgment, or the part of the judgment that you say is relevant.

Thank you for you help. I really appreciate it :T

I have a few more ET related questions:

1 - Received respondent's unsigned witness statements with the explanation that they will be signed just before the hearing. I reckon this is because the solicitor has not met with the witnesses when finalising them. Is that normal?

2 - What would you advise me to bring with me at the hearing? I guess blank A4 paper, a couple of pens, post it notes, laptop maybe. Enough copies of my witness statement and the bundle obviously. Anything else?

3 - Is it allowed when questioning witnesses to read from a sheet of paper. Basically prepare cross examination questions at home and read them to the witnesses? Or is this not a good idea?

nicechap

CYPER wrote: »

Thank you for you help. I really appreciate it :T

I have a few more ET related questions:
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What does your independent legal advice say that you've been advised to get?

If these are an example of your level of knowledge before going into the ET the other side are going to wipe the floor with you.'