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Can landlord enter property/redecorate while we still hold tenancy & keys but empty?

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  • pmlindyloo
    pmlindyloo Posts: 13,091 Forumite
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    AdrianC wrote: »
    If they've been in there already redecorating, then it won't be reasonable to do any inventory now - because the property isn't in the condition you left it. I'd say that they've accepted there's no damage beyond normal wear and tear, and you should get full deposit back.

    I would agree with this. Why would you have to clean up after workmen had been in?

    I would be inclined to make a time line of events, particularly when you were asked for the keys back. if this was the same day as the telephone call then it would be an unreasonable amount of time to do anything - not even 24 hrs notice.

    Perhaps the only thing that they could argue about would be grass cutting as this should have been done on a regular basis? But, it seems that they did not inform you that workmen would be going in so, to be honest, there seems to have been miscommunication on both sides.

    I slightly disagree with previous answers in that your parents were legally still tenants and paying their rent so in theory, permission should have been sought to enter the property. However, in practice this doesn't seem worth bringing up, unless, of course, there is a disagreement about returning the deposit.

    But, do keep a timeline of events including the dates of rent payments - just in case there is a dispute.

    With luck this will all go smoothly.
  • Hazzoura22
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    AdrianC wrote: »
    If they've been in there already redecorating, then it won't be reasonable to do any inventory now - because the property isn't in the condition you left it. I'd say that they've accepted there's no damage beyond normal wear and tear, and you should get full deposit back.

    Thanks Adrian, that's what we thought but tried to get it in writing from the EA that they were happy with condition and cleanliness at the time of redecorating but she refuses to give any clarity on the inventory, at one point saying we should have left it as intended when we moved last belongings out, then in another email saying we should be going in to make it presentable short notice in time for new tenants moving in. So there seems to be no inventory?
  • AdrianC
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    Hazzoura22 wrote: »
    Ps we did notify about the smell as soon as it happened but were told it was a neighbouring cellar and nothing their landlord could do and they just had to live with it. We felt this was unfair that we and no one else would like to live there with the smell...
    What do you expect the landlord to do about a smell from next door?

    What would YOU do if you owned the property...?
  • Hazzoura22
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    edited 1 July 2017 at 11:16AM
    AdrianC wrote: »
    What do you expect the landlord to do about a smell from next door?

    What would YOU do if you owned the property...?

    Exactly why we told my SIL to back off with that complaint as there was no point going down that route, it was just our bad luck. It did actually leak into our cellar and workmen were in and out while they were still living there putting chemicals down etc, so very inconvenient and unpleasant. But yes at the end of the day, not landlords problem.
  • ThePants999
    ThePants999 Posts: 1,748 Forumite
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    Can I just say what a pleasant change it is to see an OP be so reasonable in the face of everyone telling them they're wrong!
  • Hazzoura22
    Hazzoura22 Posts: 50 Forumite
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    Can I just say what a pleasant change it is to see an OP be so reasonable in the face of everyone telling them they're wrong!

    Haha! Thanks! :) I do try to be reasonable and admit if I'm in the wrong :)
  • AdrianC
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    Hazzoura22 wrote: »
    Haha! Thanks! :) I do try to be reasonable and admit if I'm in the wrong :)
    Few more with that attitude, and this'd be SO much nicer a place!
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