New lodger first month's rent and rude behaviour issue

randd

Red-Squirrel wrote: »

He hasn't paid you rent and he's sent you an abusive text.

Sorry, but I wouldn't be listening to that advice from CAB at all, I wouldn't be letting that person back in my home.

Yes this was quite shocking as I never said anything wrong when I was renting at someone's place. I'm quite concerned that if I deny entry and if this person comes back to me on some legal point then I'll be in danger. I'm an immigrant on working visa and I don't want to risk any such case on my profile. I'm not even sure if it goes that far, whether I'll be heard or not.

randd

aneary wrote: »

Additionally if he says that he is moving back with his wife you could say that he can break the contract and leave without notice. You aren't likely to get any more money out of him anyway and if he breaks the contract you are rid and can just move on.

I gave him both the options on 24th i.e. to leave on 25th June with his stuff and save his £240 amount OR pay me month's rent if he wants to stay.

On 25th when I texted him nicely that did you managed to make a decision based on 2 options discussed yesterday. He replied me **** off!

Red-Squirrel_2

randd wrote: »

Yes this was quite shocking as I never said anything wrong when I was renting at someone's place. I'm quite concerned that if I deny entry and if this person comes back to me on some legal point then I'll be in danger. I'm an immigrant on working visa and I don't want to risk any such case on my profile. I'm not even sure if it goes that far, whether I'll be heard or not.

Lodgers have very few rights, and there's a reason for that. People who rent out a room in their home should not have to be in a situation where they don't feel safe in their own home or where they feel forced to carry on living with an abusive person or one who doesn't pay what they agreed to.

Its a completely different situation to a landlord/tenant agreement.

He hasn't upheld his end of the contract either remember.

randd

csgohan4 wrote: »

Don't do it via text, do it by post with proof of posting, not registered, anyone can delete texts. Verbal agreements also a no no.

I'm writing a hand written letter as I'm working from home today (no access to printer) and I'll post it to the address that this lodger has on his driving license. I can't give him in person as he is away from last week.

Red-Squirrel_2

randd wrote: »

I'm writing a hand written letter as I'm working from home today (no access to printer) and I'll post it to the address that this lodger has on his driving license. I can't give him in person as he is away from last week.

If you're worried about comeback, you asked him if he wanted to leave on the 25th as that was when his rent was paid up to, or if he wanted to pay more rent and stay longer.

He replied telling you to "**** off". Now to me, that sounds like the answer is clearly the first option, this is backed up by the fact that he didn't pay you any more rent.

If I were you, I'd change my locks and put his stuff in bin bags. If he comes back (which he might never do) you can pass it to him from an upstairs window.

I certainly wouldn't be entering into any further communication as if this were a proper arrangement that he had respected.

leespot

Red-Squirrel wrote: »

If you're worried about comeback, you asked him if he wanted to leave on the 25th as that was when his rent was paid up to, or if he wanted to pay more rent and stay longer.

He replied telling you to "**** off". Now to me, that sounds like the answer is clearly the first option, this is backed up by the fact that he didn't pay you any more rent.

If I were you, I'd change my locks and put his stuff in bin bags. If he comes back (which he might never do) you can pass it to him from an upstairs window.

I certainly wouldn't be entering into any further communication as if this were a proper arrangement that he had respected.

Exactly this. Cut off all ties with him, write off any monies he owes you and move forward. You don't need this negativity in your life. Best of luck getting things sorted.

Teapot55

If you haven't changed the locks, there is nothing wrong with stopping him from coming in with his own key while you are indoors. Put the snib down if it is a yale-lock on an old-fashioned door or put the bolt across. (On our double-glazed door no-can get in from the outside if someone on the inside has left their key pushed all the way into the lock).

CM66

Change the lock, if its questioned by anyone just say your key snapped and it had to be changed. Simple.

Does that fact that he didn't pay the rent in advance as per the contract negate it?

moneyistooshorttomention

randd wrote: »

Hi @moneyistooshorttomention,
Thanks for sharing your experience. How did you arranged for him to collect his belongings? did you allowed him to enter in the house and pack his stuff OR you packed his stuff and just gave everything to him denying entry in the house?

I packed his stuff and put it outside for him. Even though I had a friend with me I still felt too nervous of what he might try to do to let him in the door again.

moneyistooshorttomention

Red-Squirrel wrote: »

He hasn't paid you rent and he's sent you an abusive text.

Sorry, but I wouldn't be listening to that advice from CAB at all, I wouldn't be letting that person back in my home.

Absolutely.

That CAB advisor isnt the one that would be in this position and they are going to "cover their own back" with what they say. Personally - I've found CAB advisers worse than useless before now (hastens to add - there are probably some good ones out there - but I personally have met some blimmin' awful ones). I dont even know whether they would be right legally - but doubt it. Why even ask someone that is almost certainly going to be a jobsworth?

Easy enough to say that you feared for your safety (particularly if you are a woman) and/or your possessions (whichever sex you are) if it came to it. But I doubt for one minute it would come to it.