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The Nice People Thread, No.16: A Universe of Niceness.
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Well done. Is it hard to teach pupils with such a range of ability? Or maybe the ability range is not that great, and some of them just work harder?
Well, it's easier when the range is smaller, but it's not too bad. It's worse if you have A* and U people in the same group!Do you know anyone who's bereaved? Point them to https://www.AtaLoss.org which does for bereavement support what MSE does for financial services, providing links to support organisations relevant to the circumstances of the loss & the local area. (Link permitted by forum team)
Tyre performance in the wet deteriorates rapidly below about 3mm tread - change yours when they get dangerous, not just when they are nearly illegal (1.6mm).
Oh, and wear your seatbelt. My kids are only alive because they were wearing theirs when somebody else was driving in wet weather with worn tyres.
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I'm hopeless at teaching!No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?0
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I'm hopeless at teaching!
I was bred for it. If I can include my dad as a teacher of sorts (he was a university lecturer) then I'm 4th generation teacher. OTOH, I have no inclination towards business or entrepreneurship at all.Do you know anyone who's bereaved? Point them to https://www.AtaLoss.org which does for bereavement support what MSE does for financial services, providing links to support organisations relevant to the circumstances of the loss & the local area. (Link permitted by forum team)
Tyre performance in the wet deteriorates rapidly below about 3mm tread - change yours when they get dangerous, not just when they are nearly illegal (1.6mm).
Oh, and wear your seatbelt. My kids are only alive because they were wearing theirs when somebody else was driving in wet weather with worn tyres.
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In my day the teacher stood and spoke at you, you opened books and did whatever exercises were in there.... might've been homework, which you might've done, or not ... and it didn't really matter if you were any good because the next lesson it was something new.
Unless your subject is requiring what you were told last week to be able to do it this week, it doesn't "matter" if you've Einstein sitting alongside Mr Bean.
Art ... doesn't matter if last week you couldn't draw a pig ... because this week you'll not be able to draw a cow and ... it doesn't matter as you don't need to be able to draw a pig before you can attempt a cow
I'm sure science is probably different... but I didn't do it
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PasturesNew wrote: »In my day the teacher stood and spoke at you, you opened books and did whatever exercises were in there.... might've been homework, which you might've done, or not ... and it didn't really matter if you were any good because the next lesson it was something new.
Unless your subject is requiring what you were told last week to be able to do it this week, it doesn't "matter" if you've Einstein sitting alongside Mr Bean.
Art ... doesn't matter if last week you couldn't draw a pig ... because this week you'll not be able to draw a cow and ... it doesn't matter as you don't need to be able to draw a pig before you can attempt a cow
I'm sure science is probably different... but I didn't do it
I also didn't do A levels.
A-level physics is really really not like the kind of teaching you describe. If students do not understand the stuff at the beginning, thoroughly and in depth, then they haven't got much of a chance of succeeding at any of the rest of it. It would be like trying to learn to do long multiplication having not really mastered counting.Do you know anyone who's bereaved? Point them to https://www.AtaLoss.org which does for bereavement support what MSE does for financial services, providing links to support organisations relevant to the circumstances of the loss & the local area. (Link permitted by forum team)
Tyre performance in the wet deteriorates rapidly below about 3mm tread - change yours when they get dangerous, not just when they are nearly illegal (1.6mm).
Oh, and wear your seatbelt. My kids are only alive because they were wearing theirs when somebody else was driving in wet weather with worn tyres.
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A-level physics is really really not like the kind of teaching you describe. If students do not understand the stuff at the beginning, thoroughly and in depth, then they haven't got much of a chance of succeeding at any of the rest of it. It would be like trying to learn to do long multiplication having not really mastered counting.
I did A-Level Physics, our teacher was hopeless. She just read out the stuff from the text book. If you asked any questions she just told you to read the text book. I got a second "O-Level" for Physics. Teacher died the next year - my friend who had gone back to do UVI for a second time (she wanted to be doctor but didn't get good enuff grades) then went to local boys school for physics classes.
My parents wouldn't allow me to go through clearing. They'd insisted I know what job I would do post degree so I chose pharmacy, for which physics is mandatory. I'm still, all these years later, really angry with my parents over that. Could have done biochemistry, which in fact I did as HNC but left my work as lab teck shortly after to go to art school! :rotfl:0 -
ukmaggie45 wrote: »I did A-Level Physics, our teacher was hopeless. She just read out the stuff from the text book. If you asked any questions she just told you to read the text book. I got a second "O-Level" for Physics.
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The obvious conclusion is that she didn't know or understand the physics herself. Small wonder her students didn't either.ukmaggie45 wrote: »My parents wouldn't allow me to go through clearing. They'd insisted I know what job I would do post degree so I chose pharmacy, for which physics is mandatory. I'm still, all these years later, really angry with my parents over that. Could have done biochemistry, which in fact I did as HNC but left my work as lab teck shortly after to go to art school! :rotfl:
Do you know anyone who's bereaved? Point them to https://www.AtaLoss.org which does for bereavement support what MSE does for financial services, providing links to support organisations relevant to the circumstances of the loss & the local area. (Link permitted by forum team)
Tyre performance in the wet deteriorates rapidly below about 3mm tread - change yours when they get dangerous, not just when they are nearly illegal (1.6mm).
Oh, and wear your seatbelt. My kids are only alive because they were wearing theirs when somebody else was driving in wet weather with worn tyres.
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The problem is that in my day if someone got AAA that was really something to celebrate and the person who got it got a really good feeling of having achieved something. Since then the standard of the exam has got easier and easier and easier and it is now well understood that anyone who got an E when I did A levels would now get an A so a D then would now be an A*. That means that all the people who got As, Bs, and C,s then are now being awarded the same grades as the people with Ds and Es and those who would have failed and got another O level. So you can't now tell the difference in achievment between someone who would have got an O level pass and someone who would have got 3 As because they all get the same A and A* grades now.
It is a bit worrying that people who would have got a pass at O level can now be awared a grade A* at A level that is some drop in standard. Luckily for the exam boards the people like me who remember hard exams at age 16 and 18 are now getting old. Lucky for me I won't be here when the UK can't keep up with the rest of the world because it doesn't educate its population to a high enough level and people are getting A*s for an A level the standard of the old 11 plus. That is not far off now. Another 5 years or so and it will be there if the A levels drop in standard at the same rate.
This means that there is no longer anything to achieve and there is nothing to celebrate because the exams not longer award talent and hard work because you can get the same result without talent and hard work because the exams are so easy.
This doesn't affect people going to university because the ones going to top universities just do more extra curricular work to make up for the time they don't need to spend on these very easy exams.
However it is extremely unfair on the people who have decided not to go to university because they can't any longer tell where they stand. There is now no way of telling whether you are an average grade A* or and exceptional A* where you would have got an A when I did my A levels because it has all been dumbed down. There is no no achievement in getting an A or A* for A level because so many people get them. They have gone down from the gold standard to the plastic in the sea standard.
It is very sad and the people who are being let down are the students. This year there is no point in celebrating an A* because it is no longer special and just ordinary.
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Well done. Is it hard to teach pupils with such a range of ability? Or maybe the ability range is not that great, and some of them just work harder?
It would have been a lot harder if I'd had all 17 in one class. This is a private school with smaller classes than a state school, though, so that was two classes - one of 8 and one of 9.Do you know anyone who's bereaved? Point them to https://www.AtaLoss.org which does for bereavement support what MSE does for financial services, providing links to support organisations relevant to the circumstances of the loss & the local area. (Link permitted by forum team)
Tyre performance in the wet deteriorates rapidly below about 3mm tread - change yours when they get dangerous, not just when they are nearly illegal (1.6mm).
Oh, and wear your seatbelt. My kids are only alive because they were wearing theirs when somebody else was driving in wet weather with worn tyres.
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ukmaggie45 wrote: »I did A-Level Physics, our teacher was hopeless. She just read out the stuff from the text book. If you asked any questions she just told you to read the text book.
Teachers come in all levels of quality, as I found in my second year at secondary school.
In the first year, we had a maths teacher who, I think in retrospect, wasn't really interested in teaching something he saw as "lowly" as first year maths - with the result that by the end of the year we'd covered quite a lot of stuff but none of us really understood it.
Come the second year, we got a different teacher who quickly realised that we hadn't grasped the first year stuff and decided to spend the first few weeks recapping what we should have learnt before going on to what the second year really entailed.
By the end of only the first lesson, a lot of what hadn't made sense with the previous teacher now did. All it took was a different approach from a teacher who went to the trouble of ensuring that we understood things and was perfectly happy to explain it again, in a different way if need be, if we didn't.
Unfortunately, we didn't get the second teacher for the third/fourth years but we did get one almost as good, and it definitely wasn't the first one again, phew
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