We’d like to remind Forumites to please avoid political debate on the Forum.

This is to keep it a safe and useful space for MoneySaving discussions. Threads that are – or become – political in nature may be removed in line with the Forum’s rules. Thank you for your understanding.

PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING: Hello Forumites! In order to help keep the Forum a useful, safe and friendly place for our users, discussions around non-MoneySaving matters are not permitted per the Forum rules. While we understand that mentioning house prices may sometimes be relevant to a user's specific MoneySaving situation, we ask that you please avoid veering into broad, general debates about the market, the economy and politics, as these can unfortunately lead to abusive or hateful behaviour. Threads that are found to have derailed into wider discussions may be removed. Users who repeatedly disregard this may have their Forum account banned. Please also avoid posting personally identifiable information, including links to your own online property listing which may reveal your address. Thank you for your understanding.
📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!
The Forum now has a brand new text editor, adding a bunch of handy features to use when creating posts. Read more in our how-to guide

Buying other apartment to own whole house

Hello All,

I was hoping for some advise from someone with more knowledge on house buying than myself !

I own an apartment valued in the region of 110k. It is half of a house that would be valued at around 210k as a building. I owe 38k on my flat. Both flats are on a leasehold

Now, assuming the other flat came up for sale and I wanted to turn it back into a house and take over the lease , what would my options be? I can't get my head aroind how the mortgage situation would work . Would I have to take funds out of my house and get a second mortgage then put on a request to buy the lease afterwards or is there a more simple option?

Hope this makes sense I'm just baffled by the whole thing!

Cheers!!

JT

Comments

  • G_M
    G_M Posts: 51,977 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    You would have to buy the lease of the other flat AND you'd have to buy the freehold of the building.

    Who owns the freehold?
  • Thanks for your reply.

    The freehold is owned by a company on the opposite side of the country who have little to nothing to do with the house. They have expressed interest in getting rid of it before

    So would I have to buy the other flat as a totally separate asset , then the freehold? So I would have two mortgages until I then combined them!?
  • It may help you to know that the flats have a shared maintainance bill but individual ground rent
  • lincroft1710
    lincroft1710 Posts: 19,502 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Photogenic Name Dropper
    As the freeholder is willing to sell, you could purchase the freehold now if you wanted. You may be able to extend your mortgage with your present lender to facilitate the purchase of the second apartment when it becomes available.
    If you are querying your Council Tax band would you please state whether you are in England, Scotland or Wales
  • eddddy
    eddddy Posts: 18,570 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    I own an apartment valued in the region of 110k. It is half of a house that would be valued at around 210k as a building. I owe 38k on my flat. Both flats are on a leasehold

    So presumably the other flat would cost abut £110k as well - which you would need to raise.

    You wouldn't get a mortgage on a property for conversion/development.

    You might get a mortgage for a 'second home', but I doubt that the lender would believe you would want a 'second home' in the same building.

    Based on your figures, I guess you might be able to raise another £60k on your current flat. So maybe you'd need another £50k for the other flat's lease, plus the cost of the freehold, plus conversion costs, plus fees.

    (You'd probably then be breaking the terms of your mortgage by doing the conversion, but you might get away with it!)


    However, in general, 2 flats are usually worth more than 1 house - so you'd probably be losing money overall.
  • da_rule
    da_rule Posts: 3,618 Forumite
    Sixth Anniversary 1,000 Posts
    If you could buy the freehold now, you could then determine the lease for your property by merger so your property would essentially become the freehold property and the other property would be a lease against your title.

    Your existing mortgage lender may be willing to transfer the mortgage on your flat to the freehold title so that you could close the leasehold title.

    Obviously taking on a freehold where there are leasehold interests does mean that you have to arrange all the works etc and comply with the Landlord and Tenants Act etc. But it also means that when the lease comes to an end it will revert back into the freehold.
  • teddysmum
    teddysmum Posts: 9,533 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    The first thing to do is consult the current mortgage company about possibilities, as you need their cooperation.
  • Owain_Moneysaver
    Owain_Moneysaver Posts: 11,393 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    You may also need planning permission to turn the properties into one house - and this might be refused as you're reducing the number of houses in the local housing stock.
    A kind word lasts a minute, a skelped erse is sair for a day.
  • Thank you very much all, your help is much appreciated.

    I think based upon all of the advice on here, I would perhaps be better to give it a miss. I never gave thought to the requirement for planning permission and given that the conversion was done on a grade 2 building without permissson in the 70s I think I'd be opening a whole can of worms .

    Many thanks to all.
This discussion has been closed.
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 354.6K Banking & Borrowing
  • 254.4K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 455.5K Spending & Discounts
  • 247.5K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 604.3K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 178.5K Life & Family
  • 261.8K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16.1K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.7K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.