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Lodger Legal Question

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  • Guest101
    Guest101 Posts: 15,764 Forumite
    Pixie I would prefer if you stayed out of this conversation now as you are not offering anything constructed - it's a public forum. People are giving their opinions. If you dont like it, google a local solicitor and ask them and I can clearly tell you have a negative image of myself and no matter what I say you will make out that I was wrong - I think it's a valid point, why didn't your partner accept £5 a month payment? . I came here to ask a legal quesiton, not moral. At the end of the day I've paid more of that girl's debt than she has and I feel morally sound.



    Actually you haven't paid anything. As your partner now has a CCJ against T, your payment is nullified.


    The money you gave will be recovered from T - and go to your partner. When really half should've gone straight to T (or taken off her debt)
  • Pixie5740 wrote: »
    I'm asking why the double standards? Why one rule for you and other for T?

    I was close with both of these people. Yes, I am H's partner but they both suggested for me to stay together. The dispute between those two is an entirely separate issue, to which I am not involved in, but in honesty would you be happy to receive a debt in excess of £1000 at £5 per month? at the end of the day when this was rejected T had the opportunity to go to court and present why she could only afford £5 per month, but she did not turn up
  • Guest101
    Guest101 Posts: 15,764 Forumite
    I was close with both of these people. Yes, I am H's partner but they both suggested for me to stay together. The dispute between those two is an entirely separate issue, to which I am not involved in, but in honesty would you be happy to receive a debt in excess of £1000 at £5 per month? at the end of the day when this was rejected T had the opportunity to go to court and present why she could only afford £5 per month, but she did not turn up



    and....


    at the end of the day T let you live rent free for 6 weeks. Presumably using utilities, having a roof over your head so you weren't on the street, cooking for you?


    You had the opportunity to pay her back but you didn't.


    - see how it can look from the other side?
  • I was close with both of these people. Yes, I am H's partner but they both suggested for me to stay together. The dispute between those two is an entirely separate issue, to which I am not involved in, but in honesty would you be happy to receive a debt in excess of £1000 at £5 per month? at the end of the day when this was rejected T had the opportunity to go to court and present why she could only afford £5 per month, but she did not turn up

    In addition to this, H tried chasing T by her owns means for approximately 6 months about this debt to which T responding by blocking her in all forms of contact, which is why it had to go to court.
  • Pixie5740
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    I was close with both of these people. Yes, I am H's partner but they both suggested for me to stay together. The dispute between those two is an entirely separate issue, to which I am not involved in, but in honesty would you be happy to receive a debt in excess of £1000 at £5 per month? at the end of the day when this was rejected T had the opportunity to go to court and present why she could only afford £5 per month, but she did not turn up

    I would hope that a friend would treat me in my time of financial hardship as I had treated them and their partner during difficult financial times rather than take me to court. Frankly I'm not surprised T has blocked H.
  • Pixie5740 wrote: »
    I would hope that a friend would treat me in my time of financial hardship as I had treated them and their partner during difficult financial times rather than take me to court.

    I was in financial difficulty, yes. but any debt I had I clearly communicated with the debtors over and came to an arrangement. T was not, and is not in financial difficulty. We share mutual friends and I know very much about their spending habits. If someone you knew was spending £100s a week partying but could only pay you back £5 a month, how would you feel?
  • Guest101
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    I was in financial difficulty, yes. but any debt I had I clearly communicated with the debtors over and came to an arrangement. T was not, and is not in financial difficulty. We share mutual friends and I know very much about their spending habits. If someone you knew was spending £100s a week partying but could only pay you back £5 a month, how would you feel?
    probably not to dissimilar to having a third person move into my home, stay for 6 weeks and not pay a penny.


    I presume you've ignore my point about splitting the £350 because you realise that is what you should've done?
  • Pixie5740
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    I was in financial difficulty, yes. but any debt I had I clearly communicated with the debtors over and came to an arrangement. T was not, and is not in financial difficulty. We share mutual friends and I know very much about their spending habits. If someone you knew was spending £100s a week partying but could only pay you back £5 a month, how would you feel?

    How do you know T isn't in financial difficulty? You don't know the full ins and outs of T's financial situation. I mean H was living with T yet was completely oblivious to money owed to the council and utility companies.

    Anyway, you have your answer, legally it is highly unlikely T would win if she took you to court.
  • CIS
    CIS Posts: 12,260 Forumite
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    edited 20 June 2017 at 3:05PM
    An important point regarding the council tax
    In light of what has happened, both me and H have now received multiple messages from T, threatening legal action against ME as she believes that as i was staying at the property at the time, I should have to contribute towards her debt.

    Strictly speaking T is correct regarding the Council Tax. Whilst you were resident as the partner of H you were jointly liable for the Council Tax charge on the property under legislation - as the partner of H you assume the same level of Council Tax liability as they do.

    The council can retrospectively amend their records and re-bill for anything outstanding during that period (presumably they were told you'd moved in but not the partner of one of the tenants). The good news for you is that until they issue a new demand notice with your name then the council can't chase you for it.


    Craig
    I no longer work in Council Tax Recovery but instead work as a specialist Council Tax paralegal assisting landlords and Council Tax payers with council tax disputes and valuation tribunals. My views are my own reading of the law and you should always check with the local authority in question.
  • aneary
    aneary Posts: 921 Forumite
    In the OPs defence it does appear the the friend was not paying their share of the bills prior to him moving in.

    In addition if the friend thought he should pay towards his keep then this should have bring brought up on the other side of the coin he should have offered something even if is was just to become the cleaner and cook for the time.
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