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And why do you think that is?
It's fairly obvious isn't it? As a society our values are totally skewed in terms of what we consider to be valuable and how we define 'success' so that to you somebody like the mother of a friend if mine, a hospice carer who has dedicated decades to providing comfort to people in their final days, is a failure because they haven't got loads of money and a big house.0 -
OK, firstly. less of the attitude. - Excuse me? - baffled why you think you can tell me what I can and cannot say. I'm not being abusive.
Secondly, for many those rabbit hutches are the only affordable property. - That's unfortunate. Not sure why that means legislation is needed.... Of course others can afford to live in larger properties, but for many, even those earning a decent wage, starter homes are the only affordable thing. - They're not.
I know life isn't fair, but that doesn't mean we should seek to make it fair. You can have fair competition, in fact it's healthy. I believe strongly in a healthy economy, I just dislike the parasitic aspect of it, when it's not necessary.
I'm sorry if I wasn't clear. No I don't think we should seek to make it fair, if that means legislation to protect everyone from everything.
I do not want my children being wrapped in cotton wool and told that nothing bad will happen, no matter what you do, because the law will step in.0 -
That is completely ridiculous.
People like nurses, doctors, social workers, emergency services etc work bloody hard and often don't get paid fairly for what they do. It's simply not as simple as hard work = success and being rich.
In your opinion*...
In what way do you think that any of those professions are badly paid? I agree that many do overtime (much of which is paid) and work very hard. They also get paid a very decent wage for that job.0 -
Red-Squirrel wrote: »It's fairly obvious isn't it? As a society our values are totally skewed in terms of what we consider to be valuable and how we define 'success' so that to you somebody like the mother of a friend if mine, a hospice carer who has dedicated decades to providing comfort to people in their final days, is a failure because they haven't got loads of money and a big house.
Did I say that? Or are you putting words 'in my mouth'
If someone chooses to dedicate their life to whatever profession - eg a hospice carer, they are not a failure. But they cannot expect to be a millionaire either.
People are responsible for the choices they make. As long as they're happy with their lot, they are not failures. If they (not me) are not happy, they should consider why that is.0 -
In your opinion*...
In what way do you think that any of those professions are badly paid? I agree that many do overtime (much of which is paid) and work very hard. They also get paid a very decent wage for that job.
Why don't you do it for a day (that's at least 12 or 13 hours by the way) and then tell us what you think you should be paid for your efforts?0 -
Did I say that? Or are you putting words 'in my mouth'
If someone chooses to dedicate their life to whatever profession - eg a hospice carer, they are not a failure. But they cannot expect to be a millionaire either.
People are responsible for the choices they make. As long as they're happy with their lot, they are not failures. If they (not me) are not happy, they should consider why that is.
So what kind of hard work and success is it that you think should be rewarded with expensive properties?0 -
Red-Squirrel wrote: »Why don't you do it for a day (that's at least 12 or 13 hours by the way) and then tell us what you think you should be paid for your efforts?
<--- works for the NHS....0 -
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Red-Squirrel wrote: »So what kind of hard work and success is it that you think should be rewarded with expensive properties?
If you want lots of money = make a career choice that pays lots of money0
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