Brexit, The Economy and House Prices (Part 2)

A_Medium_Size_Jock

mayonnaise wrote: »

Obviously, there's no place for a despotic, dictatorial, freedom of speech suppressing, political opponents torturing regime in the democratic EU.
And your point is...?

Really?
There are none so blind ............................

Try these just for starters:
Let's encourage the country with the 2nd largest military capacity in the UN into forging greater friendships with Russia.
https://www.thecairoreview.com/tahrir-forum/turkeys-turn-toward-russia/

Just when the EU is seeing increasing levels of migration in the Med with Spain now seeing significant landings too, and no real solution in sight - why not continue provoking Turkey into opening borders to allow refugees and migrants in? Either that or just bung 'em another huge wad o' cash eh?
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-turkey-eu-migrants-idUSKBN17G0RX

Arklight

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

Meanwhile Erdogan says the EU are wasting Turkey's time and that Turks see the EU as insincere.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-40577216

Brilliant. The anti EU views of Recep Erdogan are what you are using to bolster your Brexit argument.


Anyone else you'd like to bring in? Kim Jong Un? Stalin?

always_sunny

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

Just when the EU is seeing increasing levels of migration in the Med with Spain now seeing significant landings too, and no real solution in sight - why not continue provoking Turkey into opening borders to allow refugees and migrants in? Either that or just bung 'em another huge wad o' cash eh?
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-turkey-eu-migrants-idUSKBN17G0RX

Back on the migration argument. What is the solution? What is the UK solution to refugees?
What can an ageing continent do when the next continent has millions of folks fleeing death and poverty?

Tell us, what can Europe do? Forget the EU, tell us, what are the actual options?

This is not happening far far far away, some parts of Europe are closer to Africa than to Scandinavia.

kabayiri

ilovehouses wrote: »

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If a UK car manufacturer has to meet three different product standards to meet the separate import requirements of say, the USA, China and the EU do you think that might be more costly and expensive than just producing cars to a single standard.
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I think you need to look at the evolution in standards and compliance on something like a travel card.

It wasn't so long ago that firms were pushing proprietary standards with rigid structures and frankly old school methods.

Now you can build multi-layer, multi-compliance, access and services all on the card, and tune it to individual market needs.

The same will no doubt happen with the problematic wiring loom, always a source of failure and trouble in cars. The digital loom will be based on published standards which allow for multi-lingual access; and validation against local protocols. This all drives down costs.

A_Medium_Size_Jock

ilovehouses wrote: »

You always want to move on when you've turned a fairly bland discussion into an argument (which it didn't need to be) and then gone and lost the same argument.

On the contrary you were proven wrong and I will continue to prove you wrong when you are, as now.



It's logic and not overly difficult to see. I'm really not trying to pull the wool over your eyes. Not fact then but your perception of "logic".

If a UK car manufacturer has to meet three different product standards to meet the separate import requirements of say, the USA, China and the EU do you think that might be more costly and expensive than just producing cars to a single standard. Yet together with many other car manufacturing countries we currently do this, so it would be no more expensive than it is now.

The argument I'm making is actually stating the bleeding obvious. I can't believe I'm having to walk you through it.

Instead of persisting with inconsequential and frankly boring diatribes which only further perceptions of your belligerence why not attempt to contribute something original, current and worthwhile of your own? Just for the novelty value, instead of constantly attempting to berate what others post as is your usual tendency.

Here is another example of how to do just that:
Sigmar Gabriel blames Angela Merkel for the Hamburg riots:

German Foreign Minister Sigmar Gabriel made an unusually strong attack on Chancellor Angela Merkel on Tuesday as politicians blamed each other for the violent protests that overshadowed the G20 summit in Hamburg at the weekend.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-g20-germany-protests-idUKKBN19W215?il=0

kabayiri

always_sunny wrote: »

Back on the migration argument. What is the solution? What is the UK solution to refugees?
What can an ageing continent do when the next continent has millions of folks fleeing death and poverty?

Tell us, what can Europe do? Forget the EU, tell us, what are the actual options?

This is not happening far far far away, some parts of Europe are closer to Africa than to Scandinavia.

Are we entitled to be honest here?

I think only Africa can solve Africas' problems, and this historically has been a weak point.

We (Europe) will shut the doors basically. The Italians are already suggesting collusion between the NGO's and the people smugglers who park their boats 12 miles off the Libyan coast and then call for help. It's like a taxi service.

It might upset Lily Allen, but I'm sure she will find another current thing to sob about from her £4.2m mansion.

I put my family; my relatives; my neighbours; my community first.

kabayiri

ilovehouses wrote: »

I'm sold on sharing product and service standards but that wasn't the question.

If you were in India and trying to sell your service or product into the EU what would need to happen? When we leave the EU there's the potential that you'll be subject to the same rules.
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Well, specifically in relation to this, the EU was a barrier preventing easy movement of Indian IT resource about Europe (brought over on essentially preparatory/technical grounds for us).

We just didn't bother in the end. We had a small core European team (mainly Brussels/Paris/UK/Frankfurt) and more work was shipped out direct to India. Disappointing, but needs must I suppose. Things have possibly improved somewhat since.

I find the rules irritating but less of a burden than things like changing requirements, and poor QA methods.

Rinoa

always_sunny wrote: »

Tell us, what can Europe do? Forget the EU, tell us, what are the actual options?

Well, Libya won't co-operate. So I suggest we send an EU task force to secure 10 square miles just off the Libyan coast, set up refugee camps there and escort all future migrant boats to said Lybyan refugee camps.

Within one week there will be no more boats.

Guaranteed.

100%.

Conrad

andrewf75 wrote: »

But overall the outlook still seems to be mostly bad....




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FTSE 250 professional fund managers and investors have pushed it to record highs. Clearly they expect good returns going forwards.


I posted only a fraction of the global corps investing in UK. It seems they too are confident.

cogito

Arklight wrote: »

Oh, Alleluia! Only a 0.8% real terms pay cut for British workers this month then.


People will be literally dancing in the streets as when they learn that the steaming dung heap of Tory Brexit has truly delivered on all its promises.


In fact, I am going to go and reserve my space now, in case there isn't room out there later.

Still trying to reason with people or just frothing at the mouth again? You are such an angry person. Try seeking help.