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Fine from Private Company for driving down a No Entry road.

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  • Umkomaas
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    Possibly a case of sneaking out through the service road in the evening, then returning in the morning. The ANPR system will think the car was in the service station all night.

    This is the likely scenario.
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

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  • Half_way
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    This has also been posted to pepipoo, and some key questions remain un answered both here and there.

    1: Was this a parking charge notice for a perceived overstay in the car park, as mentioned previously in post #11
    Possibly a case of sneaking out through the service road in the evening, then returning in the morning. The ANPR system will think the car was in the service station all night.

    2: Or was this a parking charge notice( or other) issued solely for going up/using a side access road?

    If 2, then what exactly does the paperwork from parking eye say?
    Also PE can only access the DVLA for parking events, not moving traffic events which means there could be a potential Data protection act breach issue at play.
    However before anyone gets carried away, the OP, Micky007 needs to answer the questions above.
    either which way, if the vehicle wasn't parked then there is no charge to pay.
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  • Castle
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    fisherjim wrote: »
    These "secret" service entrances are not supposed to be used by the public but should be restricted to authorised traffic with bollards or gates, it is not illegal to use them though.
    Hotel guests, (Welcome Break), can use them at Charnock Richard services.
  • Johno100
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    Castle wrote: »
    Hotel guests, (Welcome Break), can use them at Charnock Richard services.

    Plus no doubt delivery drivers servicing the services and members of staff.
  • Fruitcake
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    Johno100 wrote: »
    Plus no doubt delivery drivers servicing the services and members of staff.

    Delivery drivers servicing members of staff! :eek:

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  • fisherjim
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    Johno100 wrote: »
    Plus no doubt delivery drivers servicing the services and members of staff.

    Exactly, years ago I used to service equipment at a hotel on the m1 they used to give you the barrier code when they phoned in to our service dept.
    The code changed monthly I believe.

    As for the theory of anpr logging the time on site they can't use two entrances with two anpr systems working independently it's not on!
    Oh wait it's a ppc they make up their own rules.

    But until the op shows what the ntk actually states all this is pointless.
  • Unless the T&C signs cover marked route signage, I struggle to see how it can be enforced on a site generally accessible to the public and to which the public are actually invited to access. There is, at worst, momentary trespass on an access road (and that would be a land owner issue)
  • pappa_golf
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    edited 5 June 2017 at 10:20AM
    the Chorley "facebook" page has just had a massive hit with people complaining in the last week or 2 , reading thru it , it seems that PE have indeed fitted a camera on that side road and are chancing there arm by issuing tickets for "no entry-private road"
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  • pogofish
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    The correct term for these roads is Rear Entry, Some possibly pertinent info here:

    https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/non_motorway_access_roads_to_mot

    http://motorwayservicesonline.co.uk/Rear_Access
  • DoaM
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    pogofish wrote: »
    The correct term for these roads is Rear Entry, Some possibly pertinent info here:

    https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/non_motorway_access_roads_to_mot

    http://motorwayservicesonline.co.uk/Rear_Access

    Really? Everything you've linked suggests it is Rear Access. :)
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