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Hotel counter suing for false sickness claim

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  • hollydays
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    edited 30 May 2017 at 11:04PM
    Opes law limited is connected to the liquidated Walter Barr solicitors

    https://www.lawgazette.co.uk/practice/firms-referred-over-sonae-group-litigation/5050447.article

    "Woolvine confirmed on oath that he had not signed or completed the submitted statement of truth. Jay concluded that ‘Walter Barr, or their agents, have forged Mr Woolvine’s signature’.

    The judge added: ‘This is a serious matter, and I direct that a copy of his judgment be sent to the SRA for investigation of this issue.’

    Gill Walker, a partner at the firm, told the Liverpool Echo there were ‘no foundations’ for the allegation."




    They seem to have a history of trying to get negative comments removed from the net
  • ARandomMiser
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    Good luck to the hotel, I hope it follows through with this and sets an example.

    At the minute I receive at least one call a week from shysters trying to get me to sue someone. I ask them politely to remove my name from their calling lists and if they call back I am usually verbally abusive to the bottom feeder at the other end of the phone.

    Ultimately the only person these fraudulent claims hurt is the honest customer.
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  • NoodleDoodleMan
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    I'd bet they'll be (rightly) blackballed by the British overseas holiday operators - no more package holidays for you wiseguys !!!
  • Browntoa
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    Seems hotels ARE changing their AI system , logging ALL drink and food consumed by guest's and storing it . Will be produced if claims are made to prove you weren't ill as claimed as you ate 3 full meals and drank copious amounts of booze on the days concerned
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  • Browntoa
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    https://www.thesun.co.uk/travel/3725708/spanish-hotels-launch-new-campaign-to-prosecute-brits-who-fake-food-poisoning-on-all-inclusive-breaks/


    The assocation is also encouraging hotels to closely monitor when and what guests are eating, so that they can prove the claimant was in the dining room when they said they were ill.
    Hotels will take more proactive measures to prosecute anyone involved in a fraudulent claim too, including the small-claims management companies who target tourists both in the resorts and once they have returned home.


    https://www.claimsaction.co.uk/uk-tour-operators-barred-bogus-holiday-illness-claims-soar/


    Hotel Groups Fighting Back

    The Benidorm, Costa Blanca and Valencia Region Hotel Association have been very proactive in trying to protect members. As a consequence a number of all-inclusive hotels in these areas now issue customers with electronic wristbands which they swipe as and when they order food and drink. This allows the hotel to not only monitor their food and drink intake but also monitor where they are at any specific moment within the hotel complex. As Nuria Montes, the general secretary of Hosbec (hoteliers association of Benidorm and Costa Blanca) commented:-
    “We have a much better chance of proving we’re dealing with a fraudulent claim if someone has drunk 27 beers and 14 gin and tonics and hasn’t been confined ill to their room.”
    It is very disappointing that hotel groups have to put such systems in place to protect themselves from bogus personal injury claims. Inadvertently, this could strengthen the case of those who have legitimate claims against hotel groups because there is a track record of what they have drunk, what they have eaten and where they have been. Indeed, using these wristbands it is even possible to tell whether a customer has been confined to their room
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  • Pollycat
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    Browntoa
    From your link to The Sun:
    New rules would require anyone submitting a food poisoning claim to also provide medical evidence, which until now has not been necessary.

    I'm absolutely gob-smacked about this ^^^^.
  • bigadaj
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    edited 16 June 2017 at 12:40PM
    Pollycat wrote: »
    Browntoa
    From your link to The Sun:


    I'm absolutely gob-smacked about this ^^^^.

    Presumably the threat of legal action and associated lawyers costs meant that initially it was cheaper to settle upfront for a few hundred or thousand pounds/ euros. Similar to cash for crash car accident claims and council paying out on pavements, potholes etc

    The consequence though is an opening of the flood gates as has been found. Sadly seems to demonstrate the British are some of the least honest people in the world.
  • Pollycat wrote: »
    Browntoa
    From your link to The Sun:


    I'm absolutely gob-smacked about this ^^^^.

    A receipt from a chemist showing medicine for an upset stomach had been purchased is all that's been needed.

    It's a complete joke. Just because you go AI doesn't mean you don't eat or drink anything outside your hotel. Ok, in the case of a lot of the Brits it probably does. As I've heard so many times 'I'm not paying for a drink. It's all free back there'. I've even heard parents telling their kids they can't have an ice cream until the get back because it's free. :eek:
  • bigadaj
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    A receipt from a chemist showing medicine for an upset stomach had been purchased is all that's been needed.

    It's a complete joke. Just because you go AI doesn't mean you don't eat or drink anything outside your hotel. Ok, in the case of a lot of the Brits it probably does. As I've heard so many times 'I'm not paying for a drink. It's all free back there'. I've even heard parents telling their kids they can't have an ice cream until the get back because it's free. :eek:

    Well benidorm is a documentary after all.

    Personally, and given the site were on, I don't see a lot wrong with the second quote, or arguably the first either.

    Being tight is very different to being dishonest after all.
  • Browntoa
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    and the hotels strike back


    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/travel_news/article-4615006/Brits-ordered-109-drinks-NINE-DAYS-sue-Jet2Holidays.html


    British tourists who tried to claim compensation for food poisoning at their Gran Canaria hotel had actually binged on 109 drinks in NINE DAYS

    • The unnamed Liverpool pair attempted to sue the hotel and tour company
    The law firm claims the couple both suffered 'stomach cramps and severe diarrhea', and both were 'bed-ridden during an acute period of illness'.
    The symptoms allegedly came on from the second day of the holiday. The claim alleges that the illness 'spoiled the rest of the holiday'.
    In the course of investigating the claim with the hotelier, it has come to light that their records show the customers continued to enjoy a range of alcoholic drinks throughout the time of their illness


    The night of the alleged onset of the illness, at least six shots of spirits and mixers were consumed, while the night after the onset of the illness, more cocktails and spirits were consumed.
    Alcohol continued to be enjoyed throughout the rest of the holiday
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