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Neighbour claims I have broken the Covenant

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  • Davesnave
    Davesnave Posts: 34,741 Forumite
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    vqmismatch wrote: »
    My parents have had enormous run-ins with one of their neighbours over people parking for mother's business which I could imagine would have been toxic if the neighbour had the opportunity to agitate on some form of enforceable covenant. As it is he just shouts frequently at the customers, a few of whom seem to respond by blocking his drive every time they visit.
    One of the oddities of application in British law is that the police will prosecute if someone is blocked into their driveway by inconsiderate parking, but won't if they are blocked-out.
  • EachPenny
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    Davesnave wrote: »
    One of the oddities of application in British law is that the police will prosecute if someone is blocked into their driveway by inconsiderate parking, but won't if they are blocked-out.

    The logic is if you are blocked in then you are denied the ability to use your vehicle (which could be required as the result of an emergency, or cause serious inconvenience) whereas being blocked out means you just need to find somewhere else to park (however inconvenient that might be!). That used to be a sensible approach, but with the spread of controlled parking zones not being able to get into your driveway becomes a serious problem as the next available 'free' parking space may be miles away.
    "In the future, everyone will be rich for 15 minutes"
  • NeilCr
    NeilCr Posts: 4,430 Forumite
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    edited 30 May 2017 at 12:26AM
    vqmismatch wrote: »
    Let us know how this one plays out.

    Covenants I find quite interesting, certainly it would be virtually impossible with my hobbies to buy somewhere with many of the popular restrictions without crossing a few. I have no doubt where I currently rent will have covenants I am in breech of but are not mentioned in the contract, but as everyone seems to get on very well nobody has any reason to kick off.

    I envisage that once I have the geographical stability to buy the cost of arguing any restrictions around parking and car maintenance will have to be priced into the purchase.

    My parents have had enormous run-ins with one of their neighbours over people parking for mother's business which I could imagine would have been toxic if the neighbour had the opportunity to agitate on some form of enforceable covenant. As it is he just shouts frequently at the customers, a few of whom seem to respond by blocking his drive every time they visit. That estate was built in the 70s.

    I guess you'd have to take care where you bought - as opposed to factoring in the cost of an argument against covenants which you may well lose

    Certainly on the two developments I've lived on (one flats and houses and the other a block) you'd have issues. Parking on both is hugely limited so car maintenance (assuming this is a hobby) would be really difficult. Where I live now it would be impossible I'd say!
  • EachPenny wrote: »
    The logic is if you are blocked in then you are denied the ability to use your vehicle (which could be required as the result of an emergency, or cause serious inconvenience) whereas being blocked out means you just need to find somewhere else to park (however inconvenient that might be!). That used to be a sensible approach, but with the spread of controlled parking zones not being able to get into your driveway becomes a serious problem as the next available 'free' parking space may be miles away.

    Though, depending on the road set-up of course, one can deal with being blocked out of entering one's driveway by just parking immediately behind the inconsiderate (or worse) neighbour concerned and blocking them in. So they wouldn't be able to move their own car if they caused that sort of trouble and most neighbours would have enough sense to realise that would happen to them if they did that.
  • bounderboy
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    Contracts arrived for signing yay!.. This was set that were sent on Friday not the ones that were sent Monday last week ???!?!?!

    Signing now and delivering directly to solicitors!..
  • Chris-TT
    Chris-TT Posts: 16 Forumite
    Thank you for all the responses. Just a quick update, I searched my neighbour's Title Register as suggested, and even though they have lived here since the beginning it refers to the same document as in my Title Register. I’ve called and emailed Lovell, as some of you suspected they’re not interested in helping out.
    Am I able to get my deeds online? All I seem to be able to find is a form I have to print out and send off?
  • G_M
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    Chris-TT wrote: »
    Thank you for all the responses. Just a quick update, I searched my neighbour's Title Register as suggested, and even though they have lived here since the beginning it refers to the same document as in my Title Register. I’ve called and emailed Lovell, as some of you suspected they’re not interested in helping out.
    Am I able to get my deeds online? All I seem to be able to find is a form I have to print out and send off?
    This was explained to you around 20 posts ago! (post 29 by Land Reg Rep).

    I reinforced the message in post 35.

    I'd assumed by now you'd have got hold of the document.....
  • Chris-TT
    Chris-TT Posts: 16 Forumite
    I was asking if there was a way to do it online rather than have to do it the old fashioned way. I guess not though, i'll get that sent off, thanks!
  • sparky130a
    sparky130a Posts: 660 Forumite
    Chris-TT wrote: »
    I was asking if there was a way to do it online rather than have to do it the old fashioned way. I guess not though, i'll get that sent off, thanks!

    If it ain't broke.....
  • Land_Registry
    Land_Registry Posts: 6,146 Organisation Representative
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    Register and title plan available online. Filed Transfer only available by post using form OC2 and paying £7 fee
    https://www.gov.uk/get-information-about-property-and-land/copies-of-deeds
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    I am the official company representative of Land Registry. MSE has given permission for me to post in response to queries about the company, so that I can help solve issues. You can see my name on the companies with permission to post list. I am not allowed to tout for business at all. If you believe I am please report it to forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com This does NOT imply any form of approval of my company or its products by MSE"
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