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ZZPS/Wright Hassall - Chasing a PCN

mattfclarke
Posts: 3 Newbie
Hello all,
I was hoping to gain some advice from this forum regarding a Parking Charge Notice.
I work for a NHS Hospital that use Indigo Park Services UK Ltd. On 18/01/2017 I received a window parking ticket for parking mounting a curb.
I have ignored every correspondence from initially Indigo, then handed to ZZPS Ltd, and finally Wright Hassall solicitors.
My latest letter I received today (22/05/2017), from Wright Hassall, giving me another 14 days from the day of the letter (17/05/2017) to pay a fine of £176. The letter says WH (anticipate being instructed to commence County Court proceedings against you without further notice." It also threatens issue of Count Court Judgement.
Since the letter previous to this, I did some research and found that a CCJ can only be issued if the case goes to court, I lose in court, and fail to pay the judge's fine in 30 days.
I have not made any sort of informal or formal appeal, or made any contact to Indigo, ZZPS or Wright Hassall.
I was hoping to gain some advice and knowledge here. Looking back, it was probably a bad idea to claim total ignorance, but I have not been at this job long, and received overwhelming advice from most of my colleagues that have been issued tickets to ignore it.
My only plan is that if and when it reaches court, lay out my defense as Indigo providing too many permits to parking spaces, leaving staff no option but to park mounting curbs. Furthermore, that I have an upstanding duty to staff and patients to provide a critical public service, and that it is morally wrong to victimise staff in this way.
Thanks in advance!
I was hoping to gain some advice from this forum regarding a Parking Charge Notice.
I work for a NHS Hospital that use Indigo Park Services UK Ltd. On 18/01/2017 I received a window parking ticket for parking mounting a curb.
I have ignored every correspondence from initially Indigo, then handed to ZZPS Ltd, and finally Wright Hassall solicitors.
My latest letter I received today (22/05/2017), from Wright Hassall, giving me another 14 days from the day of the letter (17/05/2017) to pay a fine of £176. The letter says WH (anticipate being instructed to commence County Court proceedings against you without further notice." It also threatens issue of Count Court Judgement.
Since the letter previous to this, I did some research and found that a CCJ can only be issued if the case goes to court, I lose in court, and fail to pay the judge's fine in 30 days.
I have not made any sort of informal or formal appeal, or made any contact to Indigo, ZZPS or Wright Hassall.
I was hoping to gain some advice and knowledge here. Looking back, it was probably a bad idea to claim total ignorance, but I have not been at this job long, and received overwhelming advice from most of my colleagues that have been issued tickets to ignore it.
My only plan is that if and when it reaches court, lay out my defense as Indigo providing too many permits to parking spaces, leaving staff no option but to park mounting curbs. Furthermore, that I have an upstanding duty to staff and patients to provide a critical public service, and that it is morally wrong to victimise staff in this way.
Thanks in advance!
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I would ask the Facilities Manager to cancel it. I helped two NHS workers at Christmas and one Facilities manager cancelled hers straight away, and the second victim lady offered (read that as 'assertively insisted'!) to pay the tenner that the NHS Trust would be 'charged' to request cancellation, as the principal. Both cancelled the same week.
You should have appealed and won it at POPLA, would have been easy.
This is NOT the way to defend:My only plan is that if and when it reaches court, lay out my defense as Indigo providing too many permits to parking spaces, leaving staff no option but to park mounting curbs. Furthermore, that I have an upstanding duty to staff and patients to provide a critical public service, and that it is morally wrong to victimise staff in this way.
Can't find the link now but an NHS Trust in their infinite wisdom decided to sue an employee and they 'won' this month, as if that was an intelligent thing to do when your Hospital depends on attracting the best staff...with decent employee relations...
Anyway that victim used that weak defence, and lost. That's not how to defend, but let's not discuss that till you get there, if you do.
This isn't a Welsh Hospital is it? Indigo are suing the pants off some people at the University Hospital of Wales and there is quite a fightback group actively handling the scam.PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD0 -
Hi there,
Thanks for the advice, I will do that today.
Looking back, I know I should of appealed, but was taking a stance of total ignorance.
Good to know about the defense. Out of curiosity, what is the best way to defend a parking charge notice in court?This isn't a Welsh Hospital is it?
No, one based in the south East, Vinci parking used to operate the parking.
Thanks!0 -
Just as an addendum to the points coupon mad raised, the Oxford hospital case regards the hospital doing their own parking management and suing their own employee. Unusual to say the least, but made it far easier for them to pursue the claim as landowner and sufferer of loss.
There will usually be more hurdles for parking management companies to meet before they can successfully win a claim (but a decent defence is always essential)0 -
mattfclarke wrote: »Hi there,
Thanks for the advice, I will do that today.
Looking back, I know I should of appealed, but was taking a stance of total ignorance.
Good to know about the defense. Out of curiosity, what is the best way to defend a parking charge notice in court?
No, one based in the south East, Vinci parking used to operate the parking.
Thanks!
Start by reading the relevant (court) sections of the NEWBIES thread. This tells you how to submit the acknowledgement and guides you through some of the form filling.
You will also need to do some serious research on defence points such as not the landowner, no standing, non POFA 2012 compliance, inadequate signage, and anything else that is relevant.
This won't be a five minute job, it will consume a lot of time and effort, but you are following a well trodden path and 99% of forum assisted cases result in a win for the motorist.
If you have a Union Rep, have you got them involved yet? They should be battering the hospital management about this unfair treatment of staff as I did my employer when I was a Union rep.I married my cousin. I had to...I don't have a sister.All my screwdrivers are cordless."You're Safety Is My Primary Concern Dear" - Laks0 -
Fruitcake,
Thank you for the advice on court defenses.
As for the Union Rep, I'm currently unsure and will ask around when back at work tomorrow.0
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