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Best non oil based gloss for inside wood.
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ANGLICANPAT
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OH with lung problems means I need to use low fumes products.
Just had a frustrating painting session using Ronseal STAYS WHITE one coat Non drip gloss paint. (its non oilbase)
Its the most horrible paint Ive ever used . It says to use generously yet it runs - but not immediately , so when they do show and you try to brush out just a few minutes later , its gone sticky and wont blend . Any overlapping is also non blendable even within a minute. It doesnt cover well either so you have to go through the whole difficult procedure at least twice.( Not cheap either at £13.81 for 750ml.) Dont mind expense though for a good product.
Wish Id looked for B&Q reviews first! One glowing (obviously a plant)and the rest one or 2 star and full of same criticisms. as mine
So - any savvy decorators able to advise me which water based gloss is the best for ease of application , good dense cover, not showing every brushstroke, non yellowing, and good durability please?
Just had a frustrating painting session using Ronseal STAYS WHITE one coat Non drip gloss paint. (its non oilbase)
Its the most horrible paint Ive ever used . It says to use generously yet it runs - but not immediately , so when they do show and you try to brush out just a few minutes later , its gone sticky and wont blend . Any overlapping is also non blendable even within a minute. It doesnt cover well either so you have to go through the whole difficult procedure at least twice.( Not cheap either at £13.81 for 750ml.) Dont mind expense though for a good product.
Wish Id looked for B&Q reviews first! One glowing (obviously a plant)and the rest one or 2 star and full of same criticisms. as mine
So - any savvy decorators able to advise me which water based gloss is the best for ease of application , good dense cover, not showing every brushstroke, non yellowing, and good durability please?
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I used Dulux trade quick dry (water based) gloss and their undercoat - I thought it gave a very good finish, but it was thin and prone to running and needed a couple of coats of undercoat but the end result was good.0
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Ive used Johnstones trade ecological Joncryl water based undercoat having been told by the store that thats what 'all the pro's ' use. I bought it , but it was so thin I had to use literally 4 coats to get a good cover on yellowing gloss. surface. Suspect the pro's must buy a slightly different version as they wouldnt have time to be messing with 4 coats even though it dries very fast.0
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I've just used Wilkos own brand and think it looks ok. It has a thicker 'non drip' type consistency but I think with all water based gloss, you need to brush it out quickly then leave it alone as it doesn't stay workable for long.
Took 2 coats to cover yellowed gloss but it does dry quickly0 -
We use the Leyland trade or the Crown water based, both good. On large surfaces use a foam roller, two thin coats are much better than one thick coat.
As you get down the can it gets thicker and needs a bit of water thinning. For roller application we always thin a bit. You cannot overbrush as it goes like goo if you try. A manmade none bristle brush (often advertised as no loss or similar) give a better finish due to the fast drying time too.
All equipment cleans with water. No solvent to yellow in any of the waterbased stuff. Solvent based we only use on exterior wood now.Mr Generous - Landlord for more than 10 years. Generous? - Possibly but sarcastic more likely.0 -
Mr.Generous wrote: »We use the Leyland trade or the Crown water based, both good. On large surfaces use a foam roller, two thin coats are much better than one thick coat.
As you get down the can it gets thicker and needs a bit of water thinning. For roller application we always thin a bit. You cannot overbrush as it goes like goo if you try. A manmade none bristle brush (often advertised as no loss or similar) give a better finish due to the fast drying time too.
All equipment cleans with water. No solvent to yellow in any of the waterbased stuff. Solvent based we only use on exterior wood now.
Do you just leave the gloss with a roller (short pile) finish or do you have time to brush it out for a more usual look?0 -
Johnstones Aqua gloss or satin. Both great products that cover well, as does the undercoat from the same range. Water based is a different animal to oil based. You have to learn to work with it FAST, just get it on and don't even consider going back and blending a bit in or brushing out a drip as it'll be too dry. It'll be dry in no time and you can redo any bits that need it. It also blends in if you touch up chips, you could never do that with oil based. I'm a happy migraine free convert now!0
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ANGLICANPAT wrote: »Do you just leave the gloss with a roller (short pile) finish or do you have time to brush it out for a more usual look?
It has to be a foam roller for gloss not a fur type. You wont have time (or see any benefit) from a brush finish.Mr Generous - Landlord for more than 10 years. Generous? - Possibly but sarcastic more likely.0 -
Mr.Generous wrote: »It has to be a foam roller for gloss not a fur type. You wont have time (or see any benefit) from a brush )
Very interested in the roller option. I did give it a go on inside cloakroom doors ,with both a very short pile 4" one and one in foam, but it left what I would call an even but smooth sandpaper finish . Is the secret in adding water to it then ? Can a glossy finish with 'depth' be achieved, or is a flat texture inevitable ?0
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