New Kitchen/Diner Design

n_s_simpson

Hi Everyone, just looking for another point of view before going ahead with my new kitchen extension and internal design.

Currently we have a separate dining room and ludicrously small kitchen. Total size is currently 496cm x 327cm. We're planning to knock them together and extend by 270cm. This will make the room approx 767cm x 327cm.

There are patio doors leading outside and we'll be adding internal double doors leading to the living room.

Here's what I've come up with:

https://goo.gl/photos/AhAanyefEaRrEVD79

The right window size can be changed. The distance from the left window and the existing end of the building is 69cm. The RSJ I would mean that both windows can't be combined into one huge window (I'm sure there are expensive ways but it's just not worth the expense.

I thought about a central island and breakfast bars but not sure whether that will work.

Does anyone have a better idea?

cddc

3270mm is way too narrow to have an island with units down both sides walls, so forget that idea.

Think you may have made the kitchen, a bit too long so it might be a bit of a squeeze round your dining table.

Your range is a bit too close to your sink really. Have you thought about putting the range on the end wall?

You could put a couple of pull out larders either side of your American f/f with a bridging unit over the top.

What I would, do is take that plan to a DIY store or trade supplier and let one one their designers have a go at it.

Doozergirl

Everything that cddc said. Dining area is tight, kitchen is really long and then the cooker is right next to the sink, ignoring the other walls.

Where is the door? Bottom left? You need good space there to circulate - you're making the dining area effectively smaller by having them in the same area. Preferably don't block your view of the kitchen right as you walk in with a great big fridge freezer. It will be overpowering and make the room feel smaller/narrower.

Why so many tiny units? It will cost a fortune. Use smaller numbers of larger units to bring costs down. Larder units and wide drawers will hold more and reduce the number needed a bit.

I wouldn't really call it a design, you've just tried to make things fit. Get some help with it.

Annie1960

http://simplifydiy.com/kitchen/kitchen-planning/kitchen-layout-safety

Check your plan against this.

Sausage11

Take a look at this site. Huge amount of information which will help you to plan out what will work for your space. http://www.houseplanshelper.com/kitchen-dimensions.html

martinsurrey

Doozergirl wrote: »

Everything that cddc said. Dining area is tight, kitchen is really long and then the cooker is right next to the sink, ignoring the other walls.

Where is the door? Bottom left? You need good space there to circulate - you're making the dining area effectively smaller by having them in the same area. Preferably don't block your view of the kitchen right as you walk in with a great big fridge freezer. It will be overpowering and make the room feel smaller/narrower.

Why so many tiny units? It will cost a fortune. Use smaller numbers of larger units to bring costs down. Larder units and wide drawers will hold more and reduce the number needed a bit.

I wouldn't really call it a design, you've just tried to make things fit. Get some help with it.

this with spades on.

31 units in a kitchen with a 4 person table?

sink is far too close to the oven.

I would;

1) move the oven to the center of the back wall
2) move the sink to under the window on the right
3) put the fridge in the middle of the run along the internal wall, it breaks up the run but opens up the room from the door, and gives you the important "kitchen triangle"
4) cut out the breakfast bar
5) put a bigger table but rotate it so it goes with the length of the room
6) less units, and bigger units

n_s_simpson

Some VERY helpful suggestions. I like the idea of the breakfast bar but think perhaps it's pointless since there's already going to be a dining table in the room. (I think knocking the wall down between the kitchen and dining room is a good idea.)

I will definitely take all these ideas and get a proper design done. I don't like the f/f breaking up the worktop but understand the reasoning behind this.

Urm, not easy getting it right. I've seen quite a few bad kitchen designs so want to get this one right.

getmore4less

There is a lot of counter top space and wall cupboards.

how many will be working in the space at any one time

has the this is how we do kitchens in the UK look.

I would look at some full height units either low depth or pull out easy to get things for max storage.

Corners are dead space you can get some full height walk in larder style or those with rotating shelves.

There is also no need for the sink under a window these days.

If you have a dishwasher most of the sink time is food prep, might be better to have it pointing at the social area and have work space around rather than out the window.