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Not Parked In A Marked Parking Bay

pjj2u
Posts: 2 Newbie
So as the registered keeper of the vehicle I received a lovely letter from National Parking Enforcement Ltd (Trading previously as Norfolk Parking Enforcement Ltd)
The driver of my car (on said offence day) parked in a car park outside the building not in a marked bay. It was only so someone they were giving a lift could quickly pop inside to discuss quickly a cancellation of an appointment.
The times on the letter sent to me show that they were in the car park for only 9 minutes and also there is two photos with time stamps on there.
Having done a read on this site I did some digging into the company above and found them to be BPA members kind of?
Knightshield Security Ltd t/as National Parking Enforcement
nationalparkingenforcement dot com
No
No
No
No
the no no no no is telling me if they have anpr, back office, debt recovery and self ticket
but are clearly on the ipc website (which is on the back of the parking charge notice sent to me)
National Parking Enforcement Ltd (Trading as Previously Norfolk Parking Enforcement Limited)
01/12/2015
parkingprotection dot coo dot england
so my question is which template do I use to send to them ipc or bpa? so I can get a popla or is there a step that I have missed first?
IPC Member:
Dear National Parking Enforcement Lld
Re PCN number: ######
I am the keeper of the vehicle and am aware of your purported 'parking charge'. The driver will not be identified. I require the following information so that I can make an informed decision:
1. Who is the party that contracted with your company and are they the landowner?
2. Is your charge based on damages for breach of contract? Answer yes or no.
3. Please provide photos of the signs that you say were on site, which you contend formed a contract with the driver.
4. Please provide all photographs taken of this vehicle.
5. Please provide proof that the timing of any camera or timer used was synchronised with all other cameras and/or systems & machines.
Do not send debt collector letters and do not add any costs, which would be a thinly-veiled attempt at 'double recovery'. I will not respond to debt collectors and to involve a third party would be a failure to mitigate your costs as well as deliberate and knowing misuse of my data.
Should you obtain the registered keeper's data from the DVLA without reasonable cause (e.g. if you do not fully comply with the IPC Code of Practice in terms of signage at this site, as seems likely based on my research) please take this as formal notice that I reserve the right to sue your company and the landowner/principal, for a sum not less than £250 for any Data Protection Act breach. Your aggressive business practice and unwarranted threat of court for the ordinary matter of a driver using my car without causing any obstruction nor offence, has caused significant distress to me. I do not give you consent to process data relating to me or this vehicle.
I deny liability for any sum at all and you must consider this letter a Section 10 Notice under the DPA. You are required to respond within 21 days. I have kept proof of submission of this appeal and look forward to your reply.
Yours faithfully,
Keeper of vehicle
Address
BPA members
Dear Sirs
Re: PCN No. ######
I challenge this 'PCN' as keeper of the car.
I believe that your signs fail the test of 'large lettering' and prominence, as established in ParkingEye Ltd v Beavis. Your unremarkable and obscure signs were not seen by the driver, are in very small print and the terms are not readable to drivers.
There will be no admissions as to who was driving and no assumptions can be drawn. You must either rely on the POFA 2012 and offer me a POPLA code, or cancel the charge.
Should you obtain the registered keeper's data from the DVLA without reasonable cause, please take this as formal notice that I reserve the right to sue your company and the landowner/principal, for a sum not less than £250 for any Data Protection Act breach. Your aggressive business practice and unwarranted threat of court for the ordinary matter of a driver using my car without causing any obstruction nor offence, has caused significant distress to me.
I do not give you consent to process data relating to me or this vehicle. I deny liability for any sum at all and you must consider this letter a Section 10 Notice under the DPA. You are required to respond within 21 days. I have kept proof of submission of this appeal and look forward to your reply.
Yours faithfully,
Keeper of vehicle
Address
I have not been to the parking site yet that the driver visited to take photos of the signs there.
also the first template does not ask for a popla number so would they send one?
my head is frazzled from looking at the screen most of the evening so I will stop there
if there is anything that I have missed can you guys point it out
Cheers Keeper of vehicle
The driver of my car (on said offence day) parked in a car park outside the building not in a marked bay. It was only so someone they were giving a lift could quickly pop inside to discuss quickly a cancellation of an appointment.
The times on the letter sent to me show that they were in the car park for only 9 minutes and also there is two photos with time stamps on there.
Having done a read on this site I did some digging into the company above and found them to be BPA members kind of?
Knightshield Security Ltd t/as National Parking Enforcement
nationalparkingenforcement dot com
No
No
No
No
the no no no no is telling me if they have anpr, back office, debt recovery and self ticket
but are clearly on the ipc website (which is on the back of the parking charge notice sent to me)
National Parking Enforcement Ltd (Trading as Previously Norfolk Parking Enforcement Limited)
01/12/2015
parkingprotection dot coo dot england
so my question is which template do I use to send to them ipc or bpa? so I can get a popla or is there a step that I have missed first?
IPC Member:
Dear National Parking Enforcement Lld
Re PCN number: ######
I am the keeper of the vehicle and am aware of your purported 'parking charge'. The driver will not be identified. I require the following information so that I can make an informed decision:
1. Who is the party that contracted with your company and are they the landowner?
2. Is your charge based on damages for breach of contract? Answer yes or no.
3. Please provide photos of the signs that you say were on site, which you contend formed a contract with the driver.
4. Please provide all photographs taken of this vehicle.
5. Please provide proof that the timing of any camera or timer used was synchronised with all other cameras and/or systems & machines.
Do not send debt collector letters and do not add any costs, which would be a thinly-veiled attempt at 'double recovery'. I will not respond to debt collectors and to involve a third party would be a failure to mitigate your costs as well as deliberate and knowing misuse of my data.
Should you obtain the registered keeper's data from the DVLA without reasonable cause (e.g. if you do not fully comply with the IPC Code of Practice in terms of signage at this site, as seems likely based on my research) please take this as formal notice that I reserve the right to sue your company and the landowner/principal, for a sum not less than £250 for any Data Protection Act breach. Your aggressive business practice and unwarranted threat of court for the ordinary matter of a driver using my car without causing any obstruction nor offence, has caused significant distress to me. I do not give you consent to process data relating to me or this vehicle.
I deny liability for any sum at all and you must consider this letter a Section 10 Notice under the DPA. You are required to respond within 21 days. I have kept proof of submission of this appeal and look forward to your reply.
Yours faithfully,
Keeper of vehicle
Address
BPA members
Dear Sirs
Re: PCN No. ######
I challenge this 'PCN' as keeper of the car.
I believe that your signs fail the test of 'large lettering' and prominence, as established in ParkingEye Ltd v Beavis. Your unremarkable and obscure signs were not seen by the driver, are in very small print and the terms are not readable to drivers.
There will be no admissions as to who was driving and no assumptions can be drawn. You must either rely on the POFA 2012 and offer me a POPLA code, or cancel the charge.
Should you obtain the registered keeper's data from the DVLA without reasonable cause, please take this as formal notice that I reserve the right to sue your company and the landowner/principal, for a sum not less than £250 for any Data Protection Act breach. Your aggressive business practice and unwarranted threat of court for the ordinary matter of a driver using my car without causing any obstruction nor offence, has caused significant distress to me.
I do not give you consent to process data relating to me or this vehicle. I deny liability for any sum at all and you must consider this letter a Section 10 Notice under the DPA. You are required to respond within 21 days. I have kept proof of submission of this appeal and look forward to your reply.
Yours faithfully,
Keeper of vehicle
Address
I have not been to the parking site yet that the driver visited to take photos of the signs there.
also the first template does not ask for a popla number so would they send one?
my head is frazzled from looking at the screen most of the evening so I will stop there
if there is anything that I have missed can you guys point it out
Cheers Keeper of vehicle
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oh another quick question and it might sound stupid but for National parking enforcement Ltd would the appeals process need to be taken through the website supplied on the parking charge notice form that was sent to me? the address doesn't look very professional?
Parking protection zatappeal........????
thanks again
Keeper of Vehicle0 -
NPE use the AOS from the IPC , so its the IPC template and so not BPA and no POPLA options either
you appeal using the info issued on the paperwork (the postal NTK)0
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