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white gloss over varnish?

i have doors with 8 small panes of glass ,
looks like they are pine and have been stained/varnished in past, wanting to change them to white,
any suggestions welcome as to best , quickest and easiest way to do this.
hopefully without sanding.
have seen the following products and any advice would be appreciated if anyone has used these or any other product/recommendation welcome
thanks

http://www.wilko.com/wallpaper-paste+preparation/wilko-paint-and-varnish-stripper-all-purpose-500ml/invt/0299049

http://www.screwfix.com/p/zinsser-bulls-eye-1-2-3-primer-sealer-1ltr/10135
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  • flashg67
    flashg67 Posts: 4,120 Forumite
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    I think you'll find stripping more hassle than sanding. You only need to sand enough to key (dull) the original surface before priming and painting. I've done this successfully with wooded stained & varnished doors
  • rabialiones
    rabialiones Posts: 1,962 Forumite
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    forgot to add that doors are pine
    thanks flashg67 for the prompt reply, any recommendations as to which is the best primer and paint to use
    current ones look like stain and clear varnish , they are a sort of beech colour
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  • Lorian
    Lorian Posts: 6,198 Forumite
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    Bullseye is about the best you can get in my opinion, but of course something else cheaper might do the job.
  • Ben84
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    I've never had any problems painting over varnish. I always sand it however to make the surface dull, so that the new paint sticks well. It's important to get the new paint to stick properly, both because it helps it look good and last, but also because if it peels you have a big mess to sort out later. If it's an outside surface, I would always prime it before painting.

    Also, when painting surface that meet, such as door frames and windows, I would sand the surfaces where they meet a bit more if there's a build up of paint/varnish already. If you let the paint build up too much, you can end up with the door sticking and being difficult to close. Using a bit of coarse sandpaper on these areas, then smoothing it with some finer paper doesn't take too long.
  • rabialiones
    rabialiones Posts: 1,962 Forumite
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    any recommendations as to which is the best paint to use on wood
    there are so many satinwood, vinyl, eggshell etc
    thanks
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  • Annie1960
    Annie1960 Posts: 3,009 Forumite
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    edited 12 May 2017 at 11:59AM
    The most commonly used paint for wood is gloss.

    Nowadays the other option is satinwood.

    Vinyl silk and vinyl matt are usually used on walls.

    Give the varnish a light sand.

    Apply a couple of coats of undercoat (no need for knotting compound or primer).
    Use thin coats and let each one dry before applying the next coat.
    Apply as many coats as needed so the door looks white. Then apply top coat of gloss or satinwood. I usually use Dulux, but use whatever brand takes your fancy.

    Use a good quality brush, and apply in the same direction as the grain. Harris brushes are good. You will also need a small angeled brush for doing around the glass panes.

    I assume you're talking about an internal door, but if external then make sure you use external paint.
  • rabialiones
    rabialiones Posts: 1,962 Forumite
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    thanks very much Annie1960

    your advice is much appreciated, i now know where to start from and how to get on with it
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