We'd like to remind Forumites to please avoid political debate on the Forum... Read More »
IMPORTANT: Please make sure your posts do not contain any personally identifiable information (both your own and that of others). When uploading images, please take care that you have redacted all personal information including number plates, reference numbers and QR codes (which may reveal vehicle information when scanned).
We're aware that some users are experiencing technical issues which the team are working to resolve. Thank you for your patience.
📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!
Interesting Changes Afoot to the BPA Code of Practice.
Options

Umkomaas
Posts: 43,222 Forumite


Whether these are in anticipation of the DCLG consultation results, or as an attempt to head them off, or maybe they've just been tipped off - time will tell. Some of these changes are interesting.
http://notomob.co.uk/discussions/index.php?topic=6037.0
http://notomob.co.uk/discussions/index.php?topic=6037.0
Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .
I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.
Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.
I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.
Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.
Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street
0
Comments
-
Rules with no sanction aren't worth having.
BPA still need members subscriptions so they are unlikely to increase their activity in banning rogue operators.0 -
Paragraph 15.4 is a bit of a shocker. It's under the Debt Reovery section, and permits the selling of any outstanding debt to third parties.
Unfortunately it doesn't make it clear that an unpaid demand for a parking charge isn't an "outstanding debt" until it's been admitted or proved in a court of law. Few, if any, will have been admitted. So basically, what they represent - and what is being offered for sale - is a bare right to sue.
A right to sue cannot be assigned to a third party with no connection to the case. Before the BPA made their evident approval of champerty and maintenance so public, they would have been well advised to read the Prankster's blogs on MIL Collections' unsuccessful roboclaims, as well HO's posts on the subject both on here and Pepipoo.
Or maybe they should increase their membership fees so they can afford the services of a decent lawyer.0 -
Will this mean PPCs will have to change their signs?You never know how far you can go until you go too far.0
-
Interesting thoughts ?
For this to work, it would require the secondary Sham ATA to do the same, doubt the Gladstones boys would want to do that.
If the code of practice is not identical, the BPA will lose members
The ideal situation would be to close the IPC as they have been proven to be a sham
Interesting points about this new COP
23.1c Before serving a Letter Before Claim
Operators take reasonable endeavours to ensure that the person being written to is the correct party
Surely this would mean that if someone discovers a CCJ without them knowing, they could then ask the court for proof which would place the onus on the operator
15.4 You may sell any outstanding debt to third parties
However If you do this, we believe that you maintain responsibility for the ticket that was originally issued and therefore you must make every endeavour to ensure the third party keeps to the Code as if you were carrying out the tasks. If the third party does not keep to the Code, this failure will be treated as an act of non-compliance by you.
The methods of companies like MIL would create non-compliance against the operator.
It would not be viable to sell on the fake debts
23.1d Debt Recovery follow the principals of the Financial Conduct Authority (FCA)
As companies like DRP make up the rules as they go along with their fabrications and lies, maybe the time will come when instead of ignoring the likes of DRP, the advice would be to send such letters directly to the FCA, in particular the "rent a solicitors letterhead"
This new code will be costly for operators to apply and gives the motorist many more arguments against the operator
BUT, unless the DCLG applies the same code to the sham IPC, it will mean a mass exodus from the BPA to the IPC
Let's see how smart the DCLG really are.
First logical step is to get rid of the IPC as a ATA0 -
Interesting there was no mention of double dipping (unless I missed it) and efforts to prevent it.I'd rather be an Optimist and be proved wrong than a Pessimist and be proved right.0
-
peter_the_piper wrote: »Interesting there was no mention of double dipping (unless I missed it) and efforts to prevent it.
guess they try to cover that here
21.2 Quality checks: before you make a vehicle keeper detail request to the DVLA you must carry out a manual quality check of the ANPR images to reduce errors and make sure that it is appropriate to take action. On receipt of the data from the DVLA further checks must be undertaken.
21.5 We have an expectation that when operators are using cameras to manage parking, they will sign up to the Surveillance Camera Commissioner’s Code of Practice and adopt the Guiding Principles which are detailed in Appendix F of the Code.0 -
@Beamerguy: introducing these changes won''t trigger a mass exodus to the IPC. Since when has the BPA insisted upon its members abiding by their CoP in any meaningful way? It's not the CoP that causes PPCs to leave the BPA. They do it to get away from POPLA in favour of the IAS.
So....Hands up all those who think these changes are mostly for cosmetic purposes?0 -
guess they try to cover that here
21.2 Quality checks: before you make a vehicle keeper detail request to the DVLA you must carry out a manual quality check of the ANPR images to reduce errors and make sure that it is appropriate to take action. On receipt of the data from the DVLA further checks must be undertaken.
21.5 We have an expectation that when operators are using cameras to manage parking, they will sign up to the Surveillance Camera Commissioner’s Code of Practice and adopt the Guiding Principles which are detailed in Appendix F of the Code.
Probably right.
I can just see them, "Hey Fred, there's other pics of them going in and out. Good Quality? Yes! Ok delete them"I'd rather be an Optimist and be proved wrong than a Pessimist and be proved right.0 -
Handbags-at-dawn wrote: »@Beamerguy: introducing these changes won''t trigger a mass exodus to the IPC. Since when has the BPA insisted upon its members abiding by their CoP in any meaningful way? It's not the CoP that causes PPCs to leave the BPA. They do it to get away from POPLA in favour of the IAS.
So....Hands up all those who think these changes are mostly for cosmetic purposes?
Time will tell. Of course they will jump ship if a CoP is more beneficial to running the scam, the IAS is just an extra bonus for them
We all know that the BPA are useless when it comes to their members and sanctions, that is the norm but who really cares about the BPA ... it's the CoP that matters and how we can use it.
PPC's are very fickle as you know so watch the space ?0
This discussion has been closed.
Confirm your email address to Create Threads and Reply

Categories
- All Categories
- 350.6K Banking & Borrowing
- 253K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
- 453.4K Spending & Discounts
- 243.6K Work, Benefits & Business
- 598.4K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
- 176.8K Life & Family
- 256.8K Travel & Transport
- 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
- 16.1K Discuss & Feedback
- 37.6K Read-Only Boards