Saving money on your reckless driving

Joe_Horner

TyreLever wrote: »

So why, in this case, dont they prosecute the registered keeper of the car if he or she cannot provide reasonable evidence that they were elewhere at the time of the incident?

Because, except in a few very serious cases like speeding, people are still innocent until proved guilty in this country. Which means the RK doesn't have to prove squat, it's for the prosecution to prove he was driving. If they can't do that then the case fails.

EssexExile

TyreLever wrote: »

However I do know that the outcome (based on that article) is beyond ridiculous.

And there you have the problem.

AdrianC

Joe_Horner wrote: »

Because, except in a few very serious cases like speeding

Even then, they still are.

It's just that they have the choice to accept their guilt and a fixed penalty rather than go to court. If you wish to plead not guilty, you can choose to refuse the fixed penalty and go to court, where you will be innocent until proven guilty, and all the usual rules of evidence apply.

Strider590

RichardD1970 wrote: »

No perhaps about it, your views of anybody driving a "prestige" brand of car are well known on here.

I can't help that FACT that driving these cars gives the driver a an overinflated sense of self importance..... And whether it's in a car or out the local pub, these people get very short shrift from me......

Joe_Horner

AdrianC wrote: »

Even then, they still are.

It's just that they have the choice to accept their guilt and a fixed penalty rather than go to court. If you wish to plead not guilty, you can choose to refuse the fixed penalty and go to court, where you will be innocent until proven guilty, and all the usual rules of evidence apply.

I was thinking more of the "we can't prove you were driving so we'll make it an offence for you not to incriminate yourself and charge you with that instead" rule.

Norman_Castle

Strider590 wrote: »

I can't help that FACT that driving these cars gives the driver a an overinflated sense of self importance.....

I had doubts about your opinions on BMW drivers but as you've written fact in capitols then they must be true.

RichardD1970

Strider590 wrote: »

I can't help that FACT that driving these cars gives the driver a an overinflated sense of self importance..... And whether it's in a car or out the local pub, these people get very short shrift from me......

It's called confirmation bias, look it up sometime.

neilmcl

Strider590 wrote: »

I can't help that FACT that driving these cars gives the driver a an overinflated sense of self importance..... And whether it's in a car or out the local pub, these people get very short shrift from me......

You also can't help the FACT that you have a serious CHIP on your shoulder.

bigadaj

I thought that Audi drivers had now taken the mantle from beemers?

Strider590

bigadaj wrote: »

I thought that Audi drivers had now taken the mantle from beemers?

Yes I thought so too, but Audi drivers were saints compared to the BMW crowd on my 4 hour round trip to London. Not what I expected at all.