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Read lots of advice but need some clarification please

TAT999
Posts: 2 Newbie
Hi Folks
I have read pages and pages from the forum but would really appreciate advice. Today 28/4/17 I received a letter from Vehicle Control Services clearly marked at the top as a PCN and a NTK and the issue date is 18/4/17
The contravention was "stopping in a zone where stopping is prohibited" and happened at Doncaster airport approach roads on 3/4/17. I recall the stop and was stopped for approx 30-40 seconds with the engine running and never left the vehicle. There are 3 stills of my vehicle with a 5 second time stamp between them.
From the forums I now understand that I appeal on line using the IPC members template as the keeper not naming the driver and this will be rejected. Is this correct?
I then appeal to IAS as they are members of IPC and this will probably fail and I can't appeal to POPLA is this correct?
My confusion is that IPC is a parking code of practice of which this company is a member and this isn't a parking or car park issue. I think it is a private land charge.
Am I getting this all wrong, I've been reading for hours and don't actually know now what I should do next.
If I appeal to them and get rejected and then to IAS and get rejected what happens then. Do I pay?
Thanks for any help and advice
TAT
I have read pages and pages from the forum but would really appreciate advice. Today 28/4/17 I received a letter from Vehicle Control Services clearly marked at the top as a PCN and a NTK and the issue date is 18/4/17
The contravention was "stopping in a zone where stopping is prohibited" and happened at Doncaster airport approach roads on 3/4/17. I recall the stop and was stopped for approx 30-40 seconds with the engine running and never left the vehicle. There are 3 stills of my vehicle with a 5 second time stamp between them.
From the forums I now understand that I appeal on line using the IPC members template as the keeper not naming the driver and this will be rejected. Is this correct?
I then appeal to IAS as they are members of IPC and this will probably fail and I can't appeal to POPLA is this correct?
My confusion is that IPC is a parking code of practice of which this company is a member and this isn't a parking or car park issue. I think it is a private land charge.
Am I getting this all wrong, I've been reading for hours and don't actually know now what I should do next.
If I appeal to them and get rejected and then to IAS and get rejected what happens then. Do I pay?
Thanks for any help and advice
TAT
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The advice on this forum is to make a first and second stage appeal to BPA members, but only make an initial appeal to IPC members as the IAS is a kangaroo court and not worth the effort.
So, send the IPC template in black from the NEWBIES thread. If byelaws apply, you can also add that since this was airport land, byelaws apply and therefore there is no keeper liability. The scammers should therefore contact the driver, who you will not be naming.
Once you have made the initial IPC appeal to the scammers, you ignore anything and everything you get unless it is real court papers.
Debt collectors can be safely ignored anywhere in the UK.
No you do not pay unless a judge tells you to.I married my cousin. I had to...I don't have a sister.All my screwdrivers are cordless."You're Safety Is My Primary Concern Dear" - Laks0 -
Appeal to VCS using the template for IPC operators from the NEWBIES FAQ sticky, post #1. It will be rejected. We advise no further appeal to the IAS - why?, read post #3 of the above sticky.
We don't get many Doncaster Airport cases, but we get Liverpool John Lennon Airport by the bucketful. So concentrate your searches around LJLA and follow exactly the advice given there.
Below are a number of Liverpool John Lennon Airport-related cases which might help you understand this, and how you might deal with it.
Credit and thanks go to regular forum adviser Ralph-y for pulling these together.
Some of these are relatively 'old', but nothing much has changed by way of the advice we continue to give. Initial appeal, which will be rejected, thereafter ignore everything other than a Letter Before Claim, or real court papers which will never materialise as VCS are on such thin ice at airports, they dare not have a judge examining their activities.
http://parking-prankster.blogspot.co.uk/2015/04/vehicle-control-systems-signage-at.html
http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/....php?t=5191690
http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/....php?t=5132921
http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/....php?t=5192051
http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/....php?t=5130131
http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/....php?t=5177878
http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/....php?t=5180656
http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/....php?t=5177198
http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/....php?t=5177258
http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/....php?t=5110349
http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/....php?t=5171250
http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/....php?t=5156653
http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/....php?t=5152822
http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/....php?t=5131416
http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/....php?t=5149455
http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/....php?t=5148343
http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/....php?t=5105940
http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/....php?t=5139477Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .
I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.
Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street0 -
I will follow your advice and feel so much better now. Thank you so much
TAT0
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