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Buying a listed property
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OP - I do hope you have got a big cheque book.
As others have said you will need specialist surveyors and builders and Listed Building Consent for virtually everything you need to do.
Insurance will be expensive, as will heating
The property was renovated downstairs a few years ago as used to be a shop so has full GCH. We wouldn't want to change anything TBH as happy with the layout etc. We asked the owners how much they were paying for insurance and it was no more than average0 -
The property was renovated downstairs a few years ago as used to be a shop so has full GCH.
The fact it's got GCH says nothing about how much it would cost to run that, i could put GCH in my garden, doesn't mean it will be cheap to use ! It might be. Ask to see the bills.
No such thing as "normal" for a 500 year old building, it's a one of a kind. !! Might be an aspect of the way it was built, it might have something seriously wrong. As said by others, a full in depth survey is needed by a specialist, not the sort of surveyor that says "unable to lift carpet so could not check floorboards"I expect it to be uneven but wasn't sure if this was more so than normal
Note that even something minor will likely have all sorts of rules and regulations around getting it fixed.0 -
What grade is it?0
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As the happy owner of a Listed moneypit, there are things we got sorted pronto after a full structural & things that have just happened.
My old end terrace had fewer restrictions on what I could do to it, but much (much!) worse wiring.
Asking to see the actual bills is a good tip - get a grip on the running costs (& ask when they last changed supplier?) & also ask if they have broadband. My old creak of a place does, just not fibre as the last mile is solid copper & getting fibre in will require excavations up to the doorstep - which I'm not keen on. The flags are heavy, & comfortable in place!
What bit is Listed? in our case the front of house & windows - so while we were allowed to install double glazing, it had to be hardwood not PVC (which took a bit of finding but since it was done right the first time should last a fair creak!)
If the staircase is Listed, then it may need more complex negotiation to resolve uneven risers (and you'd be stunned what You Get Used To) but that you're ready & willing to apply linseed oil to beams is a definite tick to the conservation folks - so with courtesy, cake, consultation & patience there's no reason why you shouldn't learn to love & live in comfortably a listed building.
If a full structural comes back with clearly expressed doubts, then whether you go forwards is up to you. Ours had doubts, but with price tags to sort (& various phrases we had to 'get translated' from Surveyor to human - which slipped happily into very family language) and we now have raised toddlers to teenagers in a unique & remarkably spacious family home that is in fact a retrofitted industrial unit.
Go in with your eyes open, and then learn to love it's individual ways?!0 -
If I were you I'd leave it another few hundred years just to check if these problems settle down over time.0
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The_Logans wrote: »What grade is it?
Almost certainly Grade II0 -
The_Logans wrote: »What grade is it?
The house is grade 20 -
DigForVictory wrote: »As the happy owner of a Listed moneypit, there are things we got sorted pronto after a full structural & things that have just happened.
My old end terrace had fewer restrictions on what I could do to it, but much (much!) worse wiring.
Asking to see the actual bills is a good tip - get a grip on the running costs (& ask when they last changed supplier?) & also ask if they have broadband. My old creak of a place does, just not fibre as the last mile is solid copper & getting fibre in will require excavations up to the doorstep - which I'm not keen on. The flags are heavy, & comfortable in place!
What bit is Listed? in our case the front of house & windows - so while we were allowed to install double glazing, it had to be hardwood not PVC (which took a bit of finding but since it was done right the first time should last a fair creak!)
If the staircase is Listed, then it may need more complex negotiation to resolve uneven risers (and you'd be stunned what You Get Used To) but that you're ready & willing to apply linseed oil to beams is a definite tick to the conservation folks - so with courtesy, cake, consultation & patience there's no reason why you shouldn't learn to love & live in comfortably a listed building.
If a full structural comes back with clearly expressed doubts, then whether you go forwards is up to you. Ours had doubts, but with price tags to sort (& various phrases we had to 'get translated' from Surveyor to human - which slipped happily into very family language) and we now have raised toddlers to teenagers in a unique & remarkably spacious family home that is in fact a retrofitted industrial unit.
Go in with your eyes open, and then learn to love it's individual ways?!
I assumed that the whole house would be and not just certain parts ?0 -
No, the listing applies to defined areas.I assumed that the whole house would be and not just certain parts ?
You can see all listed buildings, and what about them is listed, here - https://historicengland.org.uk/listing/the-list/0 -
No, the listing applies to defined areas.
You can see all listed buildings, and what about them is listed, here - https://historicengland.org.uk/listing/the-list/
I checked on the listed property owners club site and they state contrary to popular believe it applies to the whole building and area surrounding0
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