Commercial Vehicle

mysterymurdoch

I think reporting someone for parking a van on their property because someone else had made a rule saying they're not to is almost the definition of a busybody! Check the urban dictionary listing ��

NeilCr

mysterymurdoch wrote: »

I think reporting someone for parking a van on their property because someone else had made a rule saying they're not to is almost the definition of a busybody! Check the urban dictionary listing ��

I don't. And other dictionaries give different definitions OE - a meddling or prying person for example

On one estate near here a "busybody" had a very large, very dirty van in a parking space in their eyeline from the lounge. I can see why they wanted it removed under the exiting covenant. Their view was that the person had signed a contract which they then chose to break because they didn't like it - or, more to the point, decided shouldn't apply to them

I'm a live and let live person myself. On our estate there is a car park and it doesn't bother me whether or not there are a couple of vans there. A few people grumble but it's not a big issue and I suspect that the OP will likely be okay. One of the issues with covenant breaking is that it opens the door and a bigger problem (lorry for example!) might come along. It's harder to deal with then

AdrianC

NeilCr wrote: »

One of the issues with covenant breaking is that it opens the door and a bigger problem (lorry for example!) might come along. It's harder to deal with then

The circumstances in which anything larger than 3.5t (larger Transit-size) can be kept on the road or at somebody's home are very limited, anyway, under the terms of the Operator's Licence almost always required for the vehicle.

AnotherJoe

davidmcn wrote: »

They could park them somewhere else, surely? Or hide them inside the garage (though in this case I suppose that's still "on the property" and would be a breach).

You'll be lucky if you can park a mini in most new build garages let alone a van the size of a Sky one

NeilCr

AdrianC wrote: »

The circumstances in which anything larger than 3.5t (larger Transit-size) can be kept on the road or at somebody's home are very limited, anyway, under the terms of the Operator's Licence almost always required for the vehicle.

I was being slightly tongue in cheek using the lorry as an example of covenant breaking but this is an interesting (ish) post. I thought (probably wrongly) that there had to be an operators licence which says where the operating centre is - and the lorry can be parked there (I.e at the address designated)

Is that correct?

And do they check on the suitability of that parking?

I am just wondering how that would impact on an estate like ours with a private road and parking

AdrianC

NeilCr wrote: »

I was being slightly tongue in cheek using the lorry as an example of covenant breaking but this is an interesting (ish) post. I thought (probably wrongly) that there had to be an operators licence which says where the operating centre is - and the lorry can be parked there (I.e at the address designated)

Is that correct?

And do they check on the suitability of that parking?

I am just wondering how that would impact on an estate like ours with a private road and parking

Broadly speaking - for bigger stuff, yes. Except that private not-for-hire-or-reward vehicles are exempt (so horseboxes, big campers, racing car transporters and the like), as are recovery vehicles.

TheGardener

I once lived on a terraced street and neighbour took to parking his transit van outside my house - with only the width of the pavement between the van and the living room window - my ground floor was in virtual blackout because of the van. Other neighbours eventually complained to the council and a council civil enforcement officer had a chat with him and the guy was told a narrow terraced street was not a suitable place to park a commercial vehicle and it disappeared - I have to say I was very relieved when it did.
There were no covenants or anything like that but sometimes its more than just a eyesore - it can have a dramatic effect on the neighbours.

AdrianC

TheGardener wrote: »

I once lived on a terraced street and neighbour took to parking his transit van outside my house - with only the width of the pavement between the van and the living room window - my ground floor was in virtual blackout because of the van. Other neighbours eventually complained to the council and a council civil enforcement officer had a chat with him and the guy was told a narrow terraced street was not a suitable place to park a commercial vehicle and it disappeared - I have to say I was very relieved when it did.
There were no covenants or anything like that but sometimes its more than just a eyesore - it can have a dramatic effect on the neighbours.

He would have had every right not to, of course, assuming it was road legal.

TheGardener

AdrianC wrote: »

He would have had every right not to, of course, assuming it was road legal.

so I believe - but sometimes people don't realise the impact of something they are doing and when its pointed out - are more interested in getting on with their neighbours than sticking with the 'its legal - I can do what I want' line.
He was a nice guy and often away in the week - maybe having neighbours look out for his property while he was away was worth a short walk to a more suitable parking place.

AdrianC

Oh, sure.

It's the difference between appealing to somebody's better nature, and getting all legalistic on them. While infinitely preferable, the first doesn't always work, of course...