How there haven't been more riots yet I don't know

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Windofchange wrote: »

I'll leave it to others to disseminate the stupidity of what you have just posted. You can't spell, you can't punctuate and I can't be bothered with you anymore.

its silly because this whole thread started by you is just pointless and a waste of time. you are just taking bits of news and posting it on here and then conclude how its all unfair and why arent there more riots. all just soooooo stupid. i really cant believe people like you exist!

unforeseen

The apathy on here to what is happening across the capital is depressing

It proves that most people don't believe that the country revolves around the capital. They are more concerned with matters that affect them or their area than the iffy sale of houses on a new development in London.

Arklight

PasturesNew wrote: »

I've never voted - until that Brexit vote; I did that one.

I've never voted because no matter who gets in they do "stuff I'd not wish them to do". None of the parties are offering anything "for me". Also, anybody who says they will do something lies.

On balance - they're all the same; none will do anything "for me" and/or they're all lying anyway.

What's the point?

It's like choosing whether to be kicked to death, or beaten to death .... same result, something you'd have not chosen to occur.

Which is exactly what the establishment wants you to think, because for the most part their supporters do go and vote. Go and walk round the rich streets in your town - knock on doors and ask them whether they voted in the last election and whether they intend to vote in the next.

Them do the same in the council estates and cheap rented housing and you will see why only one group of people is being catered to by successive governments.

Most politics occurs on a local level. We have the local elections coming up in May and regardless of whether you personally vote or not, someone is going to take those positions of office so surely you may as well have a say in what their policies are?

Consider that turnout in your area will probably be so low that your vote will be equivalent to four or five people - so you can't say it doesn't matter.

ruperts

I do think restricting the ability of non-residents to buy property would be a sensible, straight forward way of addressing London's property crisis. Why afterall would a non-resident require a residential property?

Sapphire

lisyloo wrote: »

Theres quite a bit of difference between a run down badly designed flat in a social tenant block and a newly designed, brand new luxury flat in a prestigious area.

I guess this might make one of the differences?

https://www.theguardian.com/money/2016/dec/20/housebuilders-must-halt-leasehold-sales-of-houses-compensation

I think if this issue is as large as it might be, and if potential buyers of new-build 'luxury flats' are made increasingly aware of it, the whole 'property market' could be strongly affected, with developers being brought down by a misselling scandal and people not wanting to buy the blighting rubbish that is springing up all over the place.

Conrad

Windofchange wrote: »

The apathy on here to what is happening across the capital is depressing. Even if you're not going to build anything affordable, at least sell the flats to citizens of the UK? Or at the very least give nationals an equal chance to buy as opposed to selling the lot 2 years prior to UK launch at a cocktail party in Singapore?

For those of you with a spare hour over Easter, have a read of the original report and then comment - this isn't sensationalist nonsense, this is actually happening across the city.

http://www.transparency.org.uk/publications/faulty-towers-understanding-the-impact-of-overseas-corruption-on-the-london-property-market/

"Prices start in Elephant Park at £569,000 for a studio flat and go higher than £1 million, meaning the homes are out of reach to those on the average Southwark wage of £34,139."

"Land Registry data confirm that the initial off-plan sales in the development are dominated by overseas investors: all current beneficiaries listed have their address listed as ‘care of 2 Tower St, London WC2H 9NP’, 203 which is the address of Riseamsharples, a property firm who lists its business aim as “to specialise in advising Asian and other offshore investors in purchasing London property”

Is there not even a tiny part of any of you that thinks this is a bit wrong?

Have you protested about all the places in France, Italy and elsewhere where Brits have forced prices way beyond the purse of local first time buyers?

Windofchange

Conrad wrote: »

Have you protested about all the places in France, Italy and elsewhere where Brits have forced prices way beyond the purse of local first time buyers?

It's a fair point. Have communities been bulldozed to build property for wealthy brits to use as holiday homes? Maybe they have - it's a question not a statement. It strikes me that there is a lot of property in London that is being built however purely for speculation / investment and not for housing.

Windofchange

unforeseen wrote: »

It proves that most people don't believe that the country revolves around the capital. They are more concerned with matters that affect them or their area than the iffy sale of houses on a new development in London.

Yup, and I will admit that I am very London centric in my outlook - it's my local market I guess. Thing is there will be microcosms of this up and down the country. Once London becomes too expensive, people will look elsewhere. Manchester, Liverpool, Birmingham - it's already happening I believe.

Fella

The opposite of apathy isn't rioting, it's constructive activity.

Rioting is when lazy morons who are green with envy of anybody who has anything decide it would be fun to smash it up. They like to portray themselves as some kind of freedom fighters but they're just scum. Wouldn't surprise me if Momentum tried to whip some up.

antrobus

Fella wrote: »

The opposite of apathy isn't rioting, it's constructive activity.

Rioting is when lazy morons who are green with envy of anybody who has anything decide it would be fun to smash it up. They like to portray themselves as some kind of freedom fighters but they're just scum.

The rioters of 2011 were just a bunch of criminals who took the opportunity to loot some shops. I doubt they had any political ideas floating about their heads at all.

If you want a revolution you are supposed to storm the Winter Palace, rather than the local branch of Currys.:)

Fella wrote: »

...Wouldn't surprise me if Momentum tried to whip some up.

Nah, believe me pseudo-Trots can't organise anything much at all. They certainly lack the cahones to do anything themselves. All they will do is write opinion pieces for the Grauniad.:)