PPC Scotland

mrpeanut

Hello,
I received a few parking tickets from a PPC in Scotland outside my previous flat, a couple of years ago of which I have ignored due to advice on these forums. I no longer live there but the flat belongs to my friend so she gives me a heads up if I have any mail. My registration etc.. has all changed as well to my new address. She sent me a message recently with a letter from a debt collection (haven't heard from in a while) regarding the few PNCs, with a lovely story about the recent 24k charge and that if i didn't pay in the fortnight of the letter, they would file for court proceedings etc...

I went online to the PPCs website and entered the ticket numbers but none of the tickets seemed to exist.
Not really sure what to do now.
Any advice would be great
thanks

AltheHibby

Do nothing is best. If they don't know who the driver is they can't take anyone to court.

Fruitcake

In Scotland you continue to ignore anything and everything you get. The lady with the 24k charge gave away the driver's identity, and got about 200 tickets. Even if she hadn't told the scammers she was the driver, getting that many tickets would have made it very easy to identify her as the driver.

Debt collectors can be ignored anywhere in the UK. PPCs can be ignored in Scotland and NI.

Ryandavis1959

For the last time. Carly had no choice but to tell the sheriff who was driving. She is not a liar!!!!

Did you expect her to lie to the sheriff??? The sheriff will ask you and will expect the truth!!!

Why are you people so negative towards her when all she was doing was standing up for the rights of people in scotland to park without repression?edit - I apologise to the website owners for any offence I have caused

Ryandavis1959

but is that how it works here, debate is stifled if someone has a different point of view and people dib on you to 'teacher'?!? Stand up and debate me!

I don't suppose you are reporting me because you didn't like that I stood up to you about Carly and your unfounded accusations that she was a plant???

Anyway 'Fruitcake' is giving bad advice because Carly thought she could ignore the scum and she ended up paying for it, Which is why I think - if you are going to tell people to ignore then you should be raising funds to contribute to paying it if the Sheriff tells you to pay!

Fruitcake will you be dipping in your own pocket if this person has to pay at a later date? If the answer is NO then you shouldn't give such advice, because Carly was told the same and now she has to pay!!! We all had no idea that these were enforceable because everyone - including the Courier and everyone on facebook - said they are illegal. You need to get with the times!

Ryandavis1959

Oh and I should add, the best thing to do is not park in these car parks so you don't give them any of your hard earned!!! If you have to park there then WATCH YOUR BACK, wardens are everywhere these days in Scotland (until the SNP outlaws them, fingers crossed)

fisherjim

mrpeanut, in spite of all the above ranting and mostly unrelated rubbish, the advice for your post is to ignore debt collectors.

In spite of the opportunist scaremongering in their latest letter, debt collectors cannot take you to court, and if the ppc tried the debt collectors fall out of the loop and get nothing.

DoaM

Ryandavis1959 wrote: »

Why are you people so negative towards her when all she was doing was standing up for the rights of people in scotland to park without repression?

Because she was the wrong case to try and be a martyr ... she had no right to do what she did, yet did so repeatedly. There were opportunities to resolve this but she ignored them, then took the stance of "standing up for rights" (that she didn't have).

Sorry but she only had herself to blame for this ... flagrant abuse of private parking is not on. We're very anti-PPC here, but we're not anti-landowner rights.

The_Deep

Stand up and debate me!

I will happily debate with you Ryan, but first you will need to up your game. Read what DoaM writes above, it is 100% accurate.

beamerguy

Ryandavis1959 wrote: »

but is that how it works here, debate is stifled if someone has a different point of view and people dib on you to 'teacher'?!? Stand up and debate me!

I don't suppose you are reporting me because you didn't like that I stood up to you about Carly and your unfounded accusations that she was a plant???

Anyway 'Fruitcake' is giving bad advice because Carly thought she could ignore the scum and she ended up paying for it, Which is why I think - if you are going to tell people to ignore then you should be raising funds to contribute to paying it if the Sheriff tells you to pay!

Fruitcake will you be dipping in your own pocket if this person has to pay at a later date? If the answer is NO then you shouldn't give such advice, because Carly was told the same and now she has to pay!!! We all had no idea that these were enforceable because everyone - including the Courier and everyone on facebook - said they are illegal. You need to get with the times!

Fruitcake has given sound advice, he is right and you are wrong

Carly fell into the trap of collecting 200 tickets with no alarm bells ringing and she was done as the driver

This site has ALWAYS stated ... DO NOT SAY WHO WAS DRIVING
Nobody on here says the tickets are illegal. If other sources say that, you must take that up with them but begging for money is out of order

Do not expect anyone here to pay anything

You might like to pass the word which is

NEVER SAY WHO THE DRIVER IS/WAS

Fruitcake

The OP received a single unfair PCN. Carly did not.

The OP had permission to park. Carly did not.

The OP had primacy of contract over the PPC where he/she parked. Carly did not.

This thread is not about a court case. The advice I have given is aimed at stopping it from getting to that point.

The POFA 2012 does not exist in Scotland so only the driver can be liable, not the keeper.

The PPC in the OP's case do not know the identity of the driver. The PPC in Carly's case knew the identity of the driver.

In other words, there is no similarity between this thread and Carly's case.

The advice with regards to private parking companies in Scotland remains, ignore them. They can only access the keeper's details, but since there is no law in Scotland that allows them to take a keeper to court, they are stuffed. If however they know the identity of the driver, which is what happened in Carly's case, then the driver can be liable and can face court as a result.

The advice with regards debt collectors anywhere in the UK remains, ignore them. Debt collectors have absolutely no powers whatsoever. They cannot come to your door. They cannot send bailiffs round. They cannot give you a CCJ. If a PPC took someone to court, win or lose, the debt collectors would get nothing, so it is not in a debt collector's interest for anyone to go to court.

Other opinions are available.