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APCOA Parking Charge Notice - Swindon Train Station, PCN Received - What are the nex

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  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 154,188 Forumite
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    Great effort!

    Just remove #3 entirely (GPEOL was thrown out by the Supreme Court Judges, in their infinite wisdom, when they effectively laid the foundations for a very, very predictable scumbags' feeding frenzy by this nasty industry, in the ParkingEye v Beavis case in 2015).
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  • Thanks - anything else that should be amended or shortened?
  • Coupon-mad
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    Nothing to add that I can see - you will win - nice research!

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  • Fruitcake
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    A very good effort, and sure to win. Remove the out of date GPEOL as advised then fire it off.
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  • Thanks all - any advice on filling in on line - do you ignore some of the boxes and just upload as a pdf?
  • Umkomaas
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    Thanks all - any advice on filling in on line - do you ignore some of the boxes and just upload as a pdf?

    Depends whether ignoring a drop-down box prohibits the submission of the document. You need to be careful with drop-downs, especially the one which tries to fish out the driver's identity. Also watch if you change anything in the document as the 'driver's' drop-down box often defaults back to 'I am the driver' - be careful.

    If you struggle with avoiding some of the drop-downs, check to see if the PPC will accept other methods of appeal. If you find that the online version is the only method, come back for more advice on specific drop-down difficulties.
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

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  • Redx
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    with POPLA choose other and upload the appeal as a pdf , from the KEEPER (explained in the NEWBIES sticky thread and lots of other threads on here)
  • Umkomaas
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    Umkomaas wrote: »
    Depends whether ignoring a drop-down box prohibits the submission of the document. You need to be careful with drop-downs, especially the one which tries to fish out the driver's identity. Also watch if you change anything in the document as the 'driver's' drop-down box often defaults back to 'I am the driver' - be careful.

    If you struggle with avoiding some of the drop-downs, check to see if the PPC will accept other methods of appeal. If you find that the online version is the only method, come back for more advice on specific drop-down difficulties.

    Sorry OP - I hadn't re-read the thread and I thought your question was in relation to an initial appeal to the PPC.

    Thanks to Redx for giving you the correct procedure regarding submission to POPLA.
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street
  • The_Deep
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    Just remove #3 entirely (GPEOL was thrown out by the Supreme Court Judges, in their infinite wisdom,

    But was it? MUIT in many circumstances it can still be used, i.e. in "own space cases, at hospitals and universities, where full payment has been made and where time spent is not an issue, (i.e. all day parking), where it is obviously a penalty, (upside down ticket, wheel a few cms over a line, wrong registration entered).

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  • Coupon-mad
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    I'd say you have grasped the baton correctly, not that all Judges agree, sadly. There are cases where you can argue along the lines that a charge still falls foul of the penalty rule and is extravagant and disproportionate the the level of 'legit interest' (if any).

    I would shy away from the words 'GPEOL' and certainly not use the wording the OP showed us about GPEOL, which was old and ignored the Beavis case.
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