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Speeding fine second notice
Good evening,
I received a "Court referral notification" in the post this morning from Norfolk and Suffolk Constabularies. The letter says they dispatched to me requiring me to provide driver information as I was caught speeding in a 40 by manned equipment.
The worrying part is I did not ever receive the first letter. This letter says the matter is due to be referred to the Magistrates Court, which could carry a fine of upto £1000 and 6 points.
There is a contact number on the bottom which I plan to call as soon as the line opens at 10am tomorrow morning. I should just be honest and tell them I didn't receive the first letter, but im betting they've heard that excuse a million times and wont accept it.
Ive never had any dealings with the police in my life and im really worried that by the wording, ill be summoned to court. But surely not as this is the first ive heard of it, it seems abit surreal!
I could also pretend I didnt get this letter either, but I think that wouldn't be very wise. Has anybody been in a similar situation or have any advice??
I received a "Court referral notification" in the post this morning from Norfolk and Suffolk Constabularies. The letter says they dispatched to me requiring me to provide driver information as I was caught speeding in a 40 by manned equipment.
The worrying part is I did not ever receive the first letter. This letter says the matter is due to be referred to the Magistrates Court, which could carry a fine of upto £1000 and 6 points.
There is a contact number on the bottom which I plan to call as soon as the line opens at 10am tomorrow morning. I should just be honest and tell them I didn't receive the first letter, but im betting they've heard that excuse a million times and wont accept it.
Ive never had any dealings with the police in my life and im really worried that by the wording, ill be summoned to court. But surely not as this is the first ive heard of it, it seems abit surreal!
I could also pretend I didnt get this letter either, but I think that wouldn't be very wise. Has anybody been in a similar situation or have any advice??
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It's a reminder! There will be a time limit in which you have to respond with the drivers ID, it's only if you miss this that it will be referred to court.
Just fill in the driver details & post it back (get free proof of postage from the P.O.)Always try to be at least half the person your dog thinks you are!0 -
It's a reminder! There will be a time limit in which you have to respond with the drivers ID, it's only if you miss this that it will be referred to court.
Just fill in the driver details & post it back (get free proof of postage from the P.O.)
Are you sure its just a reminder? The letter I got today says " As this information has not been received at the Central Ticket Office within the statutory time period of 28 days, the matter is due to be referred to the Magistrates Court for the offence of 'failure to provide driver information', which carries a fine of up to £1000"0 -
It's a reminder! There will be a time limit in which you have to respond with the drivers ID, it's only if you miss this that it will be referred to court.
Just fill in the driver details & post it back (get free proof of postage from the P.O.)
Sounds like it's gone a little further than that.0 -
Are you sure its just a reminder? The letter I got today says " As this information has not been received at the Central Ticket Office within the statutory time period of 28 days, the matter is due to be referred to the Magistrates Court for the offence of 'failure to provide driver information', which carries a fine of up to £1000"
Read the paperwork again.
Are the words single justice procedure, postal charge or summons mentioned anywhere?
Is there a court date?0 -
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AndyMc..... wrote: »Read the paperwork again.
Are the words single justice procedure, postal charge or summons mentioned anywhere?
Is there a court date?
None of those things are mentioned. just that is is due to be referred to the Magistrates Court for the offence of failure to provide driver infomation.
Its sounds to me like I've been caught speeding, They write to you to provide details of who was driving at the time, you tell them it was yourself driving the car and then they send you a speeding fine? I might be wrong but thats what it sounds like to me..
On another note i'd only owned the car about a week at the time of the offence (24/2/17) and I still havnt received my new V5 document, but the fact the police have sent me this letter means atleast the DVLA have updated the records!0 -
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None of those things are mentioned. just that is is due to be referred to the Magistrates Court for the offence of failure to provide driver infomation.
Its sounds to me like I've been caught speeding, They write to you to provide details of who was driving at the time, you tell them it was yourself driving the car and then they send you a speeding fine? I might be wrong but thats what it sounds like to me..
On another note i'd only owned the car about a week at the time of the offence (24/2/17) and I still havnt received my new V5 document, but the fact the police have sent me this letter means atleast the DVLA have updated the records!
There is a date on the V5c to say when the document was issued. Is this before the date of the speeding offence. If so then the s172 will have gone to the previous owner.
You may need to consult legal advise to help build a case to defend yourself in court. As the original offence of failing to name the driver could be the fault of previous owner.0 -
If it hasn't yet been referred to court, you may be able to contact the Ticket office explaining what you have here, as it sounds like the first notice went elsewhere, and they may have got your address from the insurance database. The fact that you only owned the car for a week before the alleged offence date will give you some credibility.
Try also posting on pepipoo.com as they are more than experienced at dealing with issues like this. The wording does sound like it's a last chance to respond. There might also be a defence to the fail to furnish charge there, but these are notoriously difficult to fight with a nasty conviction code that insurers hate. Reason for that is that the insurance company wonders what was so bad that you wouldn't identify yourself.
Put everything suuccinctly here:
http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showforum=50 -
There is a date on the V5c to say when the document was issued. Is this before the date of the speeding offence. If so then the s172 will have gone to the previous owner.
You may need to consult legal advise to help build a case to defend yourself in court. As the original offence of failing to name the driver could be the fault of previous owner.
If you read what you quoted you'll know he hasn't got the V5.0
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