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parking ticket is a joke.

I took my wife and daughter to the Range in saint helens merseyside, it was just before xmas so it was a busy time , we spent nearly £200 in the Range and when we came out my daughter wanted to go mcdonalds, well i drove to mcdonalds and we had something to eat, anyway a week later i received a p.c.n. with a photo of my car displaying 12 minutes over my time, i was over my time because mcdonalds is on the same land even though i drove my car and moved it from the Range to mcdonalds, i have now got a notice of intended court action or pay £160. I did argue my case and emailed my proof of receipt but they are not interested.I am not paying this charge, i have done nothing wrong, i have admitted i was the driver, i have nothing to hide, i have not broken the law. The DVLA should not give personal information out unless you have broken the law. I took my family out shopping and did not expect to get charged and threatened for shopping at the shops on the car park. f king fed up of paying pcn notices. once i picked up my son at Liverpool airport, 20 seconds i stopped £60 fine, i payed. Sports direct in st helens merseyside, I was sorting my brothers funeral out with my niece my dead brothers daughter and was a little time over. £60, i paid. If there is a parking ticket machine like they have at hospitals, then i can pay for the time i have spent there, otherwise how can you park without getting a notice ?
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  • What i mean, is if i go to a shop, what a joke hahaha, A barrier lifts up and gives you a ticket and when you come out you put your ticket in, if the barrier does not lift, then you have to pay the ticket in the machine, otherwise you cannot get out.
  • Half_way
    Half_way Posts: 7,396 Forumite
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    First question, why on earth are you paying these things?
    Second question what is the name of the parking company?
    From the Plain Language Commission:

    "The BPA has surely become one of the most socially dangerous organisations in the UK"
  • Mr.Generous
    Mr.Generous Posts: 3,915 Forumite
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    Contact the Range and ask them to cancel the ticket, £200 is a very good spend for a store like that, Ave transaction value will be more like £20. If they won't play ball contact the local papers with your story. Failing that a readers letter to the papers. Also no harm in contacting the councillor for the town centre and asking him to contact them regarding the detrimental affect on Town centre trade.
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  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 147,928 Forumite
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    fed up of paying pcn notices. once i picked up my son at Liverpool airport, 20 seconds i stopped £60 fine, i payed. Sports direct in st helens merseyside, I was sorting my brothers funeral out with my niece my dead brothers daughter and was a little time over. £60, i paid.
    Wow. Neither were 'fines' and neither had to be paid!
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  • robertoo
    robertoo Posts: 5 Forumite
    I paid because i didnt know any better , my brother died the first time so i was in mourning and was !!!!ed off and had other stuff on my mind and didnt want someone making my life hell when i had just lost my brother .the parking company is care parking
  • robertoo
    robertoo Posts: 5 Forumite
    I contacted the Range, i went to the shop, they wouldn't let me see the manager and said that the parking firm ignores them. I don't go saint helens anymore.
  • robertoo
    robertoo Posts: 5 Forumite
    I now know that they were not fines but they treat you like you have broken the law.
  • Fruitcake
    Fruitcake Posts: 59,417 Forumite
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    Please start by reading the Sticky thread for NEWBIES. This tells you what you should do to deal with parking scammers.

    Care parking are BA members so you should have got a PoPLA code with your rejection. Read post 3 of the NEWBIES and use the template appeal points to construct a PoPLA appeal.
    Show us your draft before you submit it.

    In future, don't pay the scammers but fight back instead. Don't go round admitting who was driving. That is never a good idea.

    In addition to the above, complain to your MP, Mrs May, and Andrew Jones MP. This is the only way that these parking scams will be stopped.

    Please also put some paragraphs and line spacings in your original post. Many people will have difficulty reading that wall of text.
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  • ironhead
    ironhead Posts: 12 Forumite
    Hi Robertoo

    they try this on many times at the Range in St.Helens and it is, in my mind, bordering on criminal activity. I filed an online report to the National Fraud and Cyber Crime reporting centre, but they're about as much use as an ash tray on a motorbike.

    The good news is that Care Parking don't appear to be active with the courts. I think I checked last time and they are run by Anchor Security Services who have been to court about half a dozen times in the last few years but I don't even know if that was with Care Parking.

    They were pestering the life out of my old dad when he visited the store twice in one day until I sent this letter....


    Care Parking
    Seasons House
    Lakeside Business Village
    St. Davids Park
    Ewloe
    CH5 3YE

    Reference No. xxxxxx
    Vehicle Registration xxxxxxxx

    Dear Sir

    I am writing this on behalf of the registered keeper who is an 85 year old disabled blue badge holder with mobility problems.

    To reiterate - the facts relating to this fake parking charge are as follows:-

    The registered keeper and the driver of the vehicle visited The Range store in St Helens in the morning and purchased a curtain pole, which turned out to be faulty, so they returned later that afternoon to exchange it. That’s two separate visits each of less than half an hour and about four hours apart as confirmed by the previously sent receipts. We have an independent witness ( the person who came to fit the curtain pole and subsequently found it to be faulty) who can place the vehicle and driver at the registered keepers address at lunchtime that day.

    Clearly, the evidence we have, (receipts, times and witnesses who will testify) proves that the registered keepers car left the car park in the morning and then returned later that afternoon.

    I am well aware of the so called ‘double dipping’ scam that you operate from this car park, having spoken to others with whom you have tried the same tactic, and realise that you know full well that two visits were made that day but choose to deliberately withhold the photographs of the car leaving in the morning and returning in the afternoon in an attempt to fraudulently obtain money from the registered keeper.

    I would suggest that you are in breach of the Fraud Act 2006 and it is my intention therefore to file an online report to the National Fraud and Cyber Crime Reporting Centre regarding this matter. I will also be making a complaint to The Range store, the BPA, the DVLA and the media as I feel that it is about time that organisations such as yours, who engage in this kind of criminal activity, are exposed.

    No further correspondence will be entered into



    ...... That was last October and since I sent the letter the threat-o-grams have mysteriously stopped.
  • Half_way
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    Is this site owned by the Range, or is it a muliple outlet retail park, with different shops/stores on site?
    From the Plain Language Commission:

    "The BPA has surely become one of the most socially dangerous organisations in the UK"
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