Pip application refused

Hi all..
I had a first time pip assessment at the start of this month..thought I'd give them a call today to track the progress and was told that a decision had been made and I would receive the letter in the post next week. The decision was that I would not be awarded anything for both components. I'm going to wait for the letter to come through but really don't want to go through the appealing process..

Has anyone got any advice or want to share their experience.

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  • antrobus
    antrobus Posts: 17,386 Forumite
    Glondon12 wrote: »
    Hi all..
    I had a first time pip assessment at the start of this month..thought I'd give them a call today to track the progress and was told that a decision had been made and I would receive the letter in the post next week. The decision was that I would not be awarded anything for both components. I'm going to wait for the letter to come through but really don't want to go through the appealing process..

    Has anyone got any advice or want to share their experience.

    The letter from the DWP should give you a summary of what points you were awarded. You can request a copy of the HCP's PA4 report that will (I believe) provide more detail.

    It's hard to say what you should do without that information, or indeed, without knowledge of your specific health issues.

    If you disagree with the conclusions reached by the DWP based on the HCP's report, you can request a Mandatory Reconsideration, but that (it seems) only rarely works, you would have to go to appeal if you wanted to challenge the decision.
  • w06
    w06 Posts: 917 Forumite
    not wanting to increase you angst, but if I recall correctly you're also a full time student and have applied for ESA? Without PIP/DLA you're not able to claim ESA as a full time student (unless you're not currently a student)
  • Alice_Holt
    Alice_Holt Posts: 6,094 Forumite
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    Here is a recent thread on refused PIP applications with a lot of comments / advice :
    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5606130
    Alice Holt Forest situated some 4 miles south of Farnham forms the most northerly gateway to the South Downs National Park.
  • Jack_Itin
    Jack_Itin Posts: 340 Forumite
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    I would certainly go for a Mandatory Reconsideration, as you have nothing to lose....The MR is quite a painless exercise, mine only took three weeks, unfortunately not many decisions are overturned at the MR stage, mine wasn't, but you have to go through the process if you want to go to tribunal......good luck.....Jack.
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  • Glondon12
    Glondon12 Posts: 16 Forumite
    antrobus wrote: »
    The letter from the DWP should give you a summary of what points you were awarded. You can request a copy of the HCP's PA4 report that will (I believe) provide more detail.

    It's hard to say what you should do without that information, or indeed, without knowledge of your specific health issues.

    If you disagree with the conclusions reached by the DWP based on the HCP's report, you can request a Mandatory Reconsideration, but that (it seems) only rarely works, you would have to go to appeal if you wanted to challenge the decision.


    thanks, i have requested the assessment to be sent out to me so will hopefully do the MR
  • Glondon12
    Glondon12 Posts: 16 Forumite
    i am a full time student but have been a module retriever for this academic year so i just submit the outstanding assignments. I am not in receipt of funding for this year as its a repeat. I was working in november and fell sick a week in, since ive been in and out of hospital so applied for ESA..Im not sure how the system is set up b
  • w06
    w06 Posts: 917 Forumite
    not sure of the implications of that, you'd need to speak to DWP
  • Alice_Holt
    Alice_Holt Posts: 6,094 Forumite
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    edited 24 March 2017 at 6:36PM
    This is a good guide to the appeal process:
    http://www.advicenow.org.uk/guides/how-win-pip-appeal

    MR proforma:
    https://www.leicester.gov.uk/media/178163/mandatory-reconsideration-request.pdf
    But don't expect the MRN to change the decision, you will need to take it to tribunal to get the DWP decision reviewed thoroughly . Be mindful of the 1 month deadlines.

    PIP points system:
    http://www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/personal-independence-payment-pip/pip-points-system
    This is a useful resource on how the descriptors should be interpreted:
    https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/547146/pip-assessment-guide.pdf Pages 97-135.

    Can you get help with the appeal from your local CAB / advice agency?
    https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/about-us/how-we-provide-advice/advice/

    Here is a helpline that may be able to advise you:

    "Disabled Students Helpline
    Telephone: 0800 328 5050
    Opening hours: 11am-1pm on Tuesdays and Thursdays
    email: students@disabilityrightsuk.org

    Our advisors can advise and support disabled people who are studying or wish to study at any level on full-time or part-time education or training courses if

    the course is in England and
    they are over 16
    We can advise and support disabled students or parents and/or carers of disabled students "
    Alice Holt Forest situated some 4 miles south of Farnham forms the most northerly gateway to the South Downs National Park.
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