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Breach of Covenant Question

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  • davidmcn
    davidmcn Posts: 23,596 Forumite
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    This company is dormant, I smell a scam.

    https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/02540600/officers

    They've swapped names around over the years but I would guess they're all still part of the same group, so probably legit in the sense of being from the people who have the benefit of the covenant.

    But terrible grammar (their website isn't much better) isn't exactly reassuring.
  • unforeseen
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    unforeseen wrote: »
    It seems very iffy that their website which is a .Co.uk domain has whois opt out. This is not allowed. They have been sneaky by registering it as an individual getting optout then changing thehe registrant type to a company
    I've now put a complaint into Nominet about the whois opt-out. Whois opt out for a company is not allowed as it prevents people seeing the details of of the company behind the domain and is against Nominet's rules
  • Fortyfoot
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    unforeseen wrote: »
    I've now put a complaint into Nominet about the whois opt-out. Whois opt out for a company is not allowed as it prevents people seeing the details of of the company behind the domain and is against Nominet's rules
    Well I do not follow the comment which I am sure is a genuine help to those who understand it. Thank you.

    Fortyfoot
  • Miss_Samantha
    Miss_Samantha Posts: 1,197 Forumite
    edited 23 March 2017 at 11:32PM
    Well done finding the company and domain name info. Although we do not know if the letter and website belong to the company they purport to...

    I must say that their website is quite convincing, though their prominent button to "make a covenant payment" does raise red flags.

    If people are convinced that this is a scam then there is also http://www.actionfraud.police.uk/report_fraud
  • Miss_Samantha
    Miss_Samantha Posts: 1,197 Forumite
    unforeseen wrote: »
    It seems very iffy that their website which is a .Co.uk domain has whois opt out. This is not allowed. They have been sneaky by registering it as an individual getting optout then changing thehe registrant type to a company

    This seems to be a standard service offered by major registrars:

    https://www.123-reg.co.uk/support/answers/Domains-Archive/WHOIS-Privacy/what-is-whois-privacy-462/

    In any case, it does look very suspicious. The domain has also only been registered last year...
  • davidmcn
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    What they're asking for seems dubious (assuming there even is a breach of the covenant) - if you ignore their invitation to pay them to waive the breach, I'm pretty sure that doesn't entitle them simply to sue you for the price they had suggested. They'll have other more appropriate remedies - and if your "breach" is, say, parking a works van in your driveway, you can remedy this by moving it!
  • Fortyfoot
    Fortyfoot Posts: 1,961 Forumite
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    davidmcn wrote: »
    What they're asking for seems dubious (assuming there even is a breach of the covenant) - if you ignore their invitation to pay them to waive the breach, I'm pretty sure that doesn't entitle them simply to sue you for the price they had suggested. They'll have other more appropriate remedies - and if your "breach" is, say, parking a works van in your driveway, you can remedy this by moving it!

    I think that his cat some times sits on the drive!

    Fortyfoot
  • Keep_pedalling
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    The letter contains no return address or phone number. That coupled with a very dodgy web site would suggest that this is almost certainly a scam and I doubt the real company knows anything about it.

    The company secretary is an Ann Gascogne with a registered address of a very posh residence in Church Street, Southwell. She is also a director of Gagcoines estate agents in the same street, so it might be worth a phone call to both confirm the scam and to make them aware of it, as I'm sure no reputable company would want to be associated with this.
  • I agree with post #6 . . .

    Seriously, I'd tell 'em to do one.
  • LittleMax
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    edited 5 April 2017 at 8:36AM
    The family do seem to have their fingers in an awful lot of pies - every one of their companies seems to be listed at the bottom of the Yenton website. I'm not so sure that they are completely detached from it.

    I would not reply to the letter and I would not enter into any dialogue with the Gascoines.

    http://yenton.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/Calverton-for-sale.pdf

    https://uk.linkedin.com/in/chris-gascoine-346a5392
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