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'normal' amounts of debt in this day and age

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  • BettyBones
    BettyBones Posts: 164 Forumite
    I think it's really sad that as a society we're starting to 'normalize' debt and talk in terms of 'acceptable levels' of it and 'averages'. These forums are littered with the most heart breaking stories of people who were chugging along quite nicely with the repayments on their 'average' and 'acceptable' levels of debt until job loss, sickness, divorce, redundancy, interest hikes etc hit them. And we would do well to remember that there but for the grace of God go all of us! Some of the stories on here worry me to death and I really hope I don't ever end up in their position. So I don't ever want to think of having debts as just the norm :(
    If you can dream it, you can do it - Walt Disney
  • chelseablue
    chelseablue Posts: 3,303 Forumite
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    Im 33, partner 27


    Joint income is £63,000


    We have unsecured debt of £4,500 (0% credit card until 2020)


    Mortgage outstanding £224,000 (house worth about £425,000)


    We have £11,000 in savings so could pay off the card today but while it's 0% I'll keep the savings earing interest and make sure the card is cleared before the 0% runs out
  • indesisiv
    indesisiv Posts: 6,359 Forumite
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    BettyBones wrote: »
    I think it's really sad that as a society we're starting to 'normalize' debt and talk in terms of 'acceptable levels' of it and 'averages'. These forums are littered with the most heart breaking stories of people who were chugging along quite nicely with the repayments on their 'average' and 'acceptable' levels of debt until job loss, sickness, divorce, redundancy, interest hikes etc hit them. And we would do well to remember that there but for the grace of God go all of us! Some of the stories on here worry me to death and I really hope I don't ever end up in their position. So I don't ever want to think of having debts as just the norm :(

    Totally agree with this. I was happily chugging along with approx 15k worth of debt this time last year. But then realised a) how much I was actually paying per month vs how fast it was going down. b) If I put some effort into this and get it paid off I could save that amount each month and have a savings pot in case any thing went wrong.
    c) I can then start to save for nice things once I pay it all off ... such as early retirement :rotfl:

    Normal level of debt should be zero!!

    1 debt left to go for me now.
    “Time is intended to be spent, not saved” - Alfred Wainwright
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 0 Newbie
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    edited 22 March 2017 at 3:21PM
    There is no normal. You can't use others to justify your own financial situation.

    Debt isn't necessarily a bad thing, or a good thing in its own right. Just don't use others as a way to justify your own habits.
  • Mofette
    Mofette Posts: 30 Forumite
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    worriedDan wrote: »
    I agree that this can cause depression - I am currently going through these very issues as a result of my debts. I also agree with your comments about plugging away at it. This is what we are doing at the moment - plugging away 2k a month so get rid of it asap!! We have still allowed for a few treats though - a few drinks or a pub meal out once or twice a month.
    Funnily enough Dan I'm just in your thread on page 2 and it's inspiring how you've done so far (13th Feb).


    Money is a major cause of depression and argument in my marriage, it's come close to breaking point over it a few times. He hid debt from me when we were applying for a mortgage, he made poor decisions with a house he owned and only my credit history was able to bail us out, he said "yes" to me buying things (paying on his card when his account was already overdrawn) and I see parallels, I was angry that he kept from me rather than we were in that state. I can fix what I know about!


    I am rooting for you, buddy!


    Our key is not to completely deny ourselves. Within our budget we allow £100 each, each month for 'play' - be that beer, nail polish, computer games, whatever. It ensures we feel like we're not completely bereft of fun. And that debt keeps falling, slowly but surely.
    2 Credit Cards: PAYDBX 2018 - #131 £1566.37 / £8594.48 18.2%
  • Danni-R
    Danni-R Posts: 641 Forumite
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    I'm lucky I guess.

    I am 30 something. I have a debt of just under £2k. and my mortgage of £90k. My dad's an accountant and is annoyed at my CC debt (as am I). I think 'debt' for my generation is seen as normal which is sad.
    Just typing this, I've forgotten I have a student loan of £8k. But that's 'good' debt and 'nothing to worry about' as it wont impact my credit file.
    I have friends who have new sofas on credit. I just don't get it.
    [STRIKE]£2200[/STRIKE] [STRIKE]£1950[/STRIKE][STRIKE]£1850[/STRIKE] £1600 on my credit card
    £1200 of £6000 Savings
  • takman
    takman Posts: 3,876 Forumite
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    Like others have said asking what a "normal" amount of debt is and comparing it to your own won't help your situation one bit!. The "normal" amount should be an amount and mixture of debt that results in a healthy financial situation.


    In my opinion the only "good" debt that costs interest is a Mortgage. This helps provides an essential in life and if you didn't have a mortgage you would have to rent so having a mortgage saves you wasting money on rent.


    Any debt that is interest free is good as long as you have the money to repay it in full in savings or investments.


    All other unsecured debts that you paying interest on should always be classed as bad debt and you should seriously question the reasons for taking on this debt before you commit to it.


    If your working and don't have atleast the total amount of your unsecured debts plus 3 months salary in savings then you need to take action and sort out your finances!.
  • lazer-zxr
    lazer-zxr Posts: 451 Forumite
    Ninth Anniversary Debt-free and Proud! First Post Combo Breaker
    Now, aged 36/37, joint income: £73k; Debt: £6k + mortgage
    2 years ago: 34/35, joint income £64k; Debt: £59k + mortgage
  • dktreesea
    dktreesea Posts: 5,736 Forumite
    indesisiv wrote: »
    Totally agree with this. I was happily chugging along with approx 15k worth of debt this time last year. But then realised a) how much I was actually paying per month vs how fast it was going down. b) If I put some effort into this and get it paid off I could save that amount each month and have a savings pot in case any thing went wrong.
    c) I can then start to save for nice things once I pay it all off ... such as early retirement :rotfl:

    Normal level of debt should be zero!!

    1 debt left to go for me now.


    What a great line! :)
  • missg2210
    missg2210 Posts: 76 Forumite
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    I'm 25 & earn about 70k ish. I have 40k saved but this is heading towards a house deposit and no debt. Everyone is different but I don't buy things for the sake of it and don't have latest gadgets etc very frugal with my money aka...tight haha. I just spend a lot on holidays and travelling
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