Tenant rights in France

Bearded_2

Hello, I am currently staying with a friend in France, and the Landlord lives with 3 other tenants ( one of whom is my friend) in a flat share. This land lord has expressed a desire for me to leave, when my friend would like me to stay.
Does anybody here know the legality behind my friends rights here, and if not where I could possibly go to find out in English?


Thank you for any answers in advance.

tykesi

Your post is difficult to understand, why would your friend's wishes affect anything if the landlord wants you out?

I think an ex-pat forum might be a better bet.

Guest101

I suspect, without knowing fully - if the landlord lives in the property you'd have very few rights.

Kayalana99

Bearded wrote: »

Hello, I am currently staying with a friend in France, and the Landlord lives with 3 other tenants ( one of whom is my friend) in a flat share. This land lord has expressed a desire for me to leave, when my friend would like me to stay.
Does anybody here know the legality behind my friends rights here, and if not where I could possibly go to find out in English?


Thank you for any answers in advance.

This isn't the best to ask, one this is a UK fourm and what knowledge people have of the law is UK based and not consistent.

You'd best to seek legal advice if it was worth it in France, or at very least a french fourm (you can always use a translator)

...but I highly doubt you can do anything but leave in this situation, at worse I'm sure LL could kick your friend out too if you/she cause trouble. You are not on the tenancy agreement and I'm sure your friend has rights to have friends over, but to invite someone to live with them in a flatshare where I'm guessing your friend is paying £x per month or her share of bills and isn't paying extra for a new person to come along....this is why people have flatshares with x amount for single and y amount for a couple.

sparky130a

Bearded wrote: »

Hello, I am currently staying with a friend in France, and the Landlord lives with 3 other tenants ( one of whom is my friend) in a flat share. This land lord has expressed a desire for me to leave, when my friend would like me to stay.
Does anybody here know the legality behind my friends rights here, and if not where I could possibly go to find out in English?


Thank you for any answers in advance.

So you're a house guest?

Why would you wish to stay somewhere you are not wanted?

gingercordial

Apparently under normal tenancy laws in France (landlord not living there) sub-letting is forbidden without the landlord's written consent. https://www.french-property.com/guides/france/working-in-france/letting-property/sub-letting/

Does your friend have written consent from the landlord for you to be staying there?

Since you are describing a situation where the landlord is resident in the same property, I would expect his (the landlord's) protections to be even greater than the above and him to have even more right to have you out.

Guest101

gingercordial wrote: »

Apparently under normal tenancy laws in France (landlord not living there) sub-letting is forbidden without the landlord's written consent. https://www.french-property.com/guides/france/working-in-france/letting-property/sub-letting/

Does your friend have written consent from the landlord for you to be staying there?

Since you are describing a situation where the landlord is resident in the same property, I would expect his (the landlord's) protections to be even greater than the above and him to have even more right to have you out.

Obviously the law can be different, but sub-letting isn't having someone live with you typically

Bearded_2

I am wanted by every other occupent. I have been here less than a week and my staying here was pre arranged, explained and agreed upon. I am not sub letting, I am not giving my friend any money to let. It has been agreed that we have done nothing wrong and it is a personal whim\feeling of the landlord. My friend has done nothing that would warrant removal, unless there is a specific law you can reference in this situation I have described suggesting otherwise. However, the rental agreement may not be renewed.

pinkshoes

Bearded wrote: »

Hello, I am currently staying with a friend in France, and the Landlord lives with 3 other tenants ( one of whom is my friend) in a flat share. This land lord has expressed a desire for me to leave, when my friend would like me to stay.
Does anybody here know the legality behind my friends rights here, and if not where I could possibly go to find out in English?


Thank you for any answers in advance.

So it is a 4 bed property, with one room belonging to the landlord (LL), and each of the other rooms contain a "tenant".

Did your friend ask permission from the LL for you to stay?

How long was agreed?

How long have you been staying there?

How long are you intending to stay?

Rights between lodgers and landlords:
https://www.locservice.fr/guide/reussir-sa-location/obligations.html

sparky130a

Bearded wrote: »

However, the rental agreement may not be renewed.

What do you mean?

Edit: So if i'm reading this right you're putting your friends home at risk by staying? Seems rather selfish.

pascal22p

The landlord cannot prevent the lodger to have a guest but it does not specified overnight stay. Plus this does not apply to the shared area. See https://www.caf.fr/vies-de-famille/se-loger/locataire-et-colocation/se-loger-chez-l-habitant-avantages-et-inconvenients

There is no specific contract for lodgers it is a normal tenant contract with the list of private/shared areas. There can be some T&C but they cannot be use to restrain the use of the private part.

The best advice would be to contact the adil:
https://www.anil.org/lanil-et-les-adil/votre-adil/

The legal bits are there:
https://www.service-public.fr/particuliers/vosdroits/F920

Everything in French I am afraid.