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Stop-gap car?
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Your best bet is probably to find out which cars/models have them it as standard and search for them.
Not many do, most are trim specific.
Eg. Golf mk7 only the GT_ trim has it as standard. But other trims may have it specified.BeenThroughItAll wrote: »Well, one sure fire way to avoid big bills is to buy a car with a complex, not-particularly-useful set of features.
*bangs head*
Not useful for you. Thank you for your understanding, and highly valuable input.
Being serious here. Electronics are highly reliable equipment, usually they fail is because physical objects fail, such as wiring or sensor. It's like calling someone is dumb for their hearing disabilities.
Great link! I would never knew there's one such website, it even did spell check for you! I wonder if that Wikipedia website might be useful.
Oh no, Wikipedia only lists cars that is able to be equipped with ACC. Does not have any information on which trim level has it fitted as standard or whether it comes with the car as standard. Such a shame!
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Great link! I would never knew there's one such website, it even did spell check for you! I wonder if that Wikipedia website might be useful.
Oh no, Wikipedia only lists cars that is able to be equipped with ACC. Does not have any information on which trim level has it fitted as standard or whether it comes with the car as standard. Such a shame!
Hang about, you have a whinge about my unhelpful posts, and then decide you'll roll out the sarcastic responses to someone who has, categorically, provided you with helpful input.
You may well have heard of Google, but your post here suggests you were too bone idle to bother to use it.0 -
Not many do, most are trim specific.
Eg. Golf mk7 only the GT_ trim has it as standard. But other trims may have it specified.
Not useful for you. Thank you for your understanding, and highly valuable input.
Being serious here. Electronics are highly reliable equipment, usually they fail is because physical objects fail, such as wiring or sensor. It's like calling someone is dumb for their hearing disabilities.
Great link! I would never knew there's one such website, it even did spell check for you! I wonder if that Wikipedia website might be useful.
Oh no, Wikipedia only lists cars that is able to be equipped with ACC. Does not have any information on which trim level has it fitted as standard or whether it comes with the car as standard. Such a shame!
Forget Wiki and try reading through some of the others, especially the various motoring magazines.
What you are looking for is not just going to drop into your lap without some work on your part!0 -
Not many do, most are trim specific.
Sorry, that's what I meant by model. Find a list of trims which have it (you're going to need to do some work here, you're the one who wants the obscure and generally unwanted feature), then make a shortlist, and then look for those. We can't make that any simpler for you.
I'll do the research for you for £25/hour, though, if you really want :A0 -
Being serious here. Electronics are highly reliable equipment, usually they fail is because physical objects fail, such as wiring or sensor. It's like calling someone is dumb for their hearing disabilities.
Electronics are notoriously unreliable (because wiring and sensors are integral, and the whole system is sensitive to all sorts of unintended side effects) and are usually an absolute nightmare to fix, so result in big bills. Something goes wrong that involves poking about in the wiring loom and it's hours of work. High likelihood that whatever gremlin is causing problems won't be reproducible later.
If you want low maintenance, then go low electronics. Of the 3 things that stop working sporadically on my car, 3 of them are electronic (though probably sensor or loose connection based).0 -
BeenThroughItAll wrote: »Hang about, you have a whinge about my unhelpful posts, and then decide you'll roll out the sarcastic responses to someone who has, categorically, provided you with helpful input.
You may well have heard of Google, but your post here suggests you were too bone idle to bother to use it.
Oh really? You think linking a google search result page is not sarcasm and I've not read any of those American articles? Half of the cars are not common in UK.Forget Wiki and try reading through some of the others, especially the various motoring magazines.
What you are looking for is not just going to drop into your lap without some work on your part!
Half of the articles are American and the cars are not common in UK. I agree the information will not fall on my lap, but it should have been clear from the beginning that what I'm looking for is not a "here's a google search result"Sorry, that's what I meant by model. Find a list of trims which have it (you're going to need to do some work here, you're the one who wants the obscure and generally unwanted feature), then make a shortlist, and then look for those. We can't make that any simpler for you.
I'll do the research for you for £25/hour, though, if you really want :A
Is there any website that would have reliable trim information on older cars? Information for current models can be found on the manufacture's website, but information for previous models are hard to come by.Electronics are notoriously unreliable (because wiring and sensors are integral, and the whole system is sensitive to all sorts of unintended side effects) and are usually an absolute nightmare to fix, so result in big bills. Something goes wrong that involves poking about in the wiring loom and it's hours of work. High likelihood that whatever gremlin is causing problems won't be reproducible later.
If you want low maintenance, then go low electronics. Of the 3 things that stop working sporadically on my car, 3 of them are electronic (though probably sensor or loose connection based).
The problem is the fixing approach. I work in electronics industry, I know how easy it is to find fault and fix. Garages tend to employ outdated manual fault finding method, I've witnessed a garage "electrician" use light bulb to determine whether the wire is okay. Light bulbs! Not even multimeter. All these electronics will have built-in self-test, garages should be able to read the error code off it and know exactly which wire/sensor is faulty.0 -
Well done. I suspect you've just blown any further chance of help on these pages with your attitude in your last few posts.
Do remember to come back and tell us if you ever find your elusive car with must have features, and a picture would be nice as well so that we can all see this wonder of the automotive world of secondhand cars.0 -
Well done. I suspect you've just blown any further chance of help on these pages with your attitude in your last few posts.
Do remember to come back and tell us if you ever find your elusive car with must have features, and a picture would be nice as well so that we can all see this wonder of the automotive world of secondhand cars.
My attitude is not much different to yours. Since when have posting a google search results page that you haven't inspected been any help?
Let's list them shall we?
-wikipedia: discussed.
-autoguide: American
-AxleGeeks: American
-Autoexpress: no model information, more of a description of different types of CC
-Autobytel: American
-PistonHeads: Golf
-Autotrader.com: American
-Quora: as useful as Yahoo answers
-Ford: advert, no info which car has it as standard
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-VW: advert, no info which car has it as standard
-Parkers: same as Autoexpress
-PCmag: American and on new cars
-BusinessInsider: American blog
-Cartelligent: function description
-extremetech: American and site search of news articles on new cars
-carsguide.com.au: Australian
-lifewire: description of tech
-volvo: advert, no info which car has it as standard
-techadviser.co.uk: doubtful credibility. "Ford Fusion"? They mean Mondeo right? I have enquired about Lexus IS, pre-facelift, only premier models has ACC.
Defending the search results link as useful and attacking me is clearly also just dragging the thread down.
I've taken advices given, I've reconsidered my position and now working towards a list of used car models to watch on the second hand market. Although I don't expect anyone to do the legwork for me, but there's no harm in asking just-in-case people might know a good source of information. No responses after that because no one knows is understandable. Snarky responses are not, good bye.0 -
Well put on the baby front. It will get hectic. This is why I’m doing my research so far in advance, we have not even started trying yet.Buying closer to due date is the plan.
There's planning ahead and then there's this. Seems absolutely crazy to start changing cars when the requirement might be at least 18 month or more away and any info now is likely to be out of date by the time it happens. In the meantime your car doesn't have adaptive and you're managing - why is it now an issue?Remember the saying: if it looks too good to be true it almost certainly is.0
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