Loading Bay - UKPC

Abdull

Dear MSE,
I need a support with my POPLA reparation against UKPC.

I have given a windscreen ticket by UKPC for parking on Loading Bay. I appeal to them and they refused and provided me with a POPLA code;

My main appeal was that they got the street name wrong on their CPN ticket. When I appealed to them I attached a copy of my Google location which shows that I was not on the street they are talking about on that date.

The loading bay is also meant to be free for 20 minutes, It does not say that on their signage but the security guards tell us. I lived the states where the loading bay applies for the past 4 years and I use to park there with those 20 minutes and leave whenever they try to issue a PCN, but this time I did not leave the loading bay on time and they issued the CPN.

I have looked most of the post regarding Private parking and I submitted my original appeal using the NEWBIES Blue statement with the evidence that the street name is wrong but they refused as expected.

I am now in process of preparing my POPLA appeal and I need advice on what to include.

- Windscreen ticket with the wrong street name
- Their Images of the car and the signage are not clear as it was dark at that time.

Any details ground of appeal is appreciated. (I could not attach any file on this post as I wanted to share the images)

Many thanks

Redx

check post #3 of the newbies sticky thread

appeal points are

NO CONTRACT
NO LANDOWNER AUTHORITY
POOR OR INADEQUATE SIGNAGE
POFA 2012 failures or errors
BPA CoP failures , breaches or errors
incorrect location
ANPR failures (or camera failures if no ANPR)

images can be hosted on a hosting site (this isnt a hosting site)
try tinypic or photobucket , same as everyone else uses

Abdull

Thanks Redx for your prompt reply and advice.

I just managed to upload some images on Photobucket to share with you but the Forum is not allowing me to post a links.

'Sorry as a new user you are not allowed to post with links. This is done to stop spammers clogging up the site. Please edit your message below to continue."


Please advice me if incorrect location is relevant here and poor images.

safarmuk

Break the link when you post it here. E.G.
hxxp://yyy.<rest of web address>

Then someone will make it live for you by posting it with the correct letters (e.g. "t" instead of "x" and "w" instead of "y")

Abdull

Thanks Safarmuk for this good idea,

Here is the Photobucket link to share;

hxxp://s1070.photobucket.com/user/abdull69/media/car_zpsmimjzg4x.png.html

pleaes replace the xx to tt (e.g. "t" instead of "x" ) as the Forum not allowing me to upload links at the moment.

Redx

live link below

http://s1070.photobucket.com/user/abdull69/media/car_zpsmimjzg4x.png.html

Coupon-mad

So you appealed as per the NEWBIES thread at day 26 after the windscreen PCN...and the reason for doing that in the name of the keeper, at day 26, is to give you the slam dunk winning appeal point that:

- no NTK was served. So obviously that's point #1 (if true, if no NTK arrived).

The templates for this are in the NEWBIES thread post #3.

And the pics show no evidence of the signage wording being readable or lit (the flash of the UKPC temporary staff member's camera had to light the sign an still you can't read it!).

Abdull

I appealed as per the NEWBIES thread at day 25 / 26 after windscreen PCN. I have done so using the name of the keeper.

I received the NTK day after I sent the appeal and they replied my appeal within days to refuse.

As you can see the images they took, the area was dark and you are right they used their camera flash and still not readable.

I will go back to the NEWBIE thread post #3 template and try to put and POPLA apeal together, for the meantime I would appreciate any grounds that I would use. Also what is the chances of using the 'Incorrect location' as they got the street name wrong?.

Redx

I gave you the grounds for appeal in post #2

Coupon-mad

I appealed as per the NEWBIES thread at day 25 / 26 after windscreen PCN. I have done so using the name of the keeper.

I received the NTK day after I sent the appeal

They can't have sent a NTK so you received it on day 27. Cannot have happened, they can't get DVLA data that early.

You didn't post the appeal snail mail I hope?

Please give us some dates of what actually was sent/received when. Not the date on the NTK, the date you appealed and how, the date you RECEIVED the NTK (as opposed to the date stated on it). And you aren't just talking about a rejection letter are you? An actual NTK?

Abdull

Hi

I have posted the appeal letter on 16/02/2018 using Royal Mail second class recorded and they received it on 17/02/2017. I could not do it on their website because you can not upload more than 1 document and also I could not fit the appeal into their appeal form.

I have received the rejection letter on 21/02/2017. I can not remember when I have recieved the NTK But I think after the rejection letter or just before it. The NTK is dated 15/02/2017. I know I should have kept the dates on this.

Thanks