Parking past midnight in an empty car park!

abdullahpatel

Hi a bit of an issue here! and my first time posting, so be nice

I had parked in a small car park [1hr free parking] when I was visiting another city. I didn't spot the ANPR cameras and there were no signs where I was parked. After receiving the ticket, I checked the car park, and the signs were on the OTHER SIDE of the car park! They are the first 2 qualms I have, different city, and no clear signage where I was parking.

Addtionally, it was 11:20pm when I was parking, which means the retail shop was closed for business, AND even if there was signage, it was too dark to even spot, let alone read.

Interestingly enough, I parked at 11:20pm, and left the car park at 12:50am, which was 30 minutes over what was allowed, BUT, it was 40 minutes of one day, and only 50 minutes of the other day. In essence, I had parked on 2 separate days for less than an hour each time, even though my car had not left the car park.

I was wondering if I had enough grounds to appeal and how likely it would be. Quick recap of my points
1. I was in a different city
2. No signage in the area of the car park where my car was parked
3. Even if there was, it was too dark
4. The retail company didn't actually lose any business because it was closed and the car park was nearly empty!
5. If this makes a difference at all, whilst the car was parked, it had passed midnight, which means technically it was 2 days worth of parking (both for under an hour), rather than 1:30hrs in one day

Is it worth the appeal?

Thanks for your help! AP

Redx

the crossing over the midnight zone is irrelevant

I assume this was a private car park ? (not council)

if so, then inadequate and non-existent signage and inadequate lighting or appeal points like 2 and 3 = YES , plus there will be other appeal points too

points 1 , 4 and 5 are not valid at all , irrelevant or court decisions have kicked them into touch

the NEWBIES sticky thread explains all this , depending which trade body your PPC is in

but almost all appeals are refused by the PPC , no matter what you say , plus mitigation rarely works , less than 1% of cases and even then its usually about disability or some other sensitive issue

read and follow the NEWBIES sticky thread, its there for people ike yourself (newbies)

Coupon-mad

Is it worth the appeal?

Which parking firm?

abdullahpatel

ParkingEye

Redx

BPA member , so follow the advice in the NEWBIES sticky thread for BPA members, including the blue text appeal

abdullahpatel

any link for the newbies thread?

Redx

nope, if you cannot find it then you will struggle to beat this as using a forum is childs play compared to legal arguments and is basic forum use that you agreed to on signing up here

go to the top of this forum, check the STICKY THREADS which are 4 in total and "stuck" up there for NEWBIES like yourself to read

the idea is that NEWBIES read them before posting on the forum, to cut down on the same questions and answers being repeated ad nauseum

its the third one down at the moment , so ABOVE ^^^^^^^^^^^^ your thread

Umkomaas

abdullahpatel wrote: »

any link for the newbies thread?

One page back from this one, near the top of the forum thread list.