We’d like to remind Forumites to please avoid political debate on the Forum.
This is to keep it a safe and useful space for MoneySaving discussions. Threads that are – or become – political in nature may be removed in line with the Forum’s rules. Thank you for your understanding.
PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING: Hello Forumites! In order to help keep the Forum a useful, safe and friendly place for our users, discussions around non-MoneySaving matters are not permitted per the Forum rules. While we understand that mentioning house prices may sometimes be relevant to a user's specific MoneySaving situation, we ask that you please avoid veering into broad, general debates about the market, the economy and politics, as these can unfortunately lead to abusive or hateful behaviour. Threads that are found to have derailed into wider discussions may be removed. Users who repeatedly disregard this may have their Forum account banned. Please also avoid posting personally identifiable information, including links to your own online property listing which may reveal your address. Thank you for your understanding.
📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!
Buyers liability between exchange and completion
Comments
-
We didn't have to have insurance on the new build we purchased as it was covered by the developers policy. It's one of the rare exceptions to the general rule, but still worth checking.
If your buyers solicitor is worth his salt then he would have insisted they have insurance (if they are buying with a mortgage). There are some occasions where solicitors have actually asked for the proof of insurance before allowing exchange to happen (as the buyers would be in breach of the mortgage terms if it was not in place).
Also, the NHBC will refund your deposit if your developer for a new build property goes bust.0 -
So you'd need to claim on the insurance policy you have in place from exchange in order to come up with the rebuild costs. That's why mortgage companies insist you have insurance in place at exchange rather than completion.
From the CML Handbook:6.14.1 You must make reasonable enquiries to satisfy yourself that buildings insurance has been arranged for the property from no later than completion.
Not aware of any lenders who care what insurance you have prior to completion. But also, are you quite sure that the lender will hand over the loan funds if their security is a pile of rubble?0 -
We didn't have to have insurance on the new build we purchased as it was covered by the developers policy. It's one of the rare exceptions to the general rule, but still worth checking.
If your buyers solicitor is worth his salt then he would have insisted they have insurance (if they are buying with a mortgage). There are some occasions where solicitors have actually asked for the proof of insurance before allowing exchange to happen (as the buyers would be in breach of the mortgage terms if it was not in place).
Also, the NHBC will refund your deposit if your developer for a new build property goes bust.
So glad I read this thread. Things change and obviously I didn't know about the new rules.
We will be a cash buyer on new build and I will check with my solicitor prior to exchange this week. For the sake of starting the insurance policy a few weeks early , it will only be a few quid.
Thanks0 -
Not saying that I will do this. No way .....
But in theory now our buyers are insuring our building (house), I could cancel our building insurance
0 -
davidmcn you are quite right. I have even managed to contradict myself with what I was saying in a previous post about Chancel Insurance, it must have been a long weekend!
Obviously most mortgage companies would pull out of the deal, which is why insurance is even more important, as not only would the buyer need to pay to rebuild the property they would also need to pay the seller. Therefore having the insurance in place at exchange is purely to protect the buyer.0 -
Not saying that I will do this. No way .....
But in theory now our buyers are insuring our building (house), I could cancel our building insurance
You could yes, the standard conditions state that you are under no obligation to insure against risk from the point of exchange. Check first though as the standard conditions can be amended/edited.0 -
The contract doesn't guarantee that your buyers are actually insuring, or that the transaction will complete...you could still end up with a smouldering ruin and nothing other than the deposit from your buyers.But in theory now our buyers are insuring our building (house), I could cancel our building insurance
0 -
Not saying that I will do this. No way .....
But in theory now our buyers are insuring our building (house), I could cancel our building insurance
Solicitors generally recommend that you continue insuring - even though contractually you don't have to.
The risk being...- The house burns down
- Your buyer's insurance turns out to be inadequate
- Your buyer's lender will not release mortgage funds for a pile of ashes
- So the buyer has no funds to complete
- So the buyer breaches the contract
You could sue the buyer for £500k (the house's value) for breach of contract - and you'd probably win.
But many buyers won't have £500k in assets, so they'll just go bankrupt - leaving you massively out of pocket.
So perhaps it's safer to coninue insuring - just in case!0 -
Which is why I felt that as a buyer I would prefer the period between exchange and completion to be as short as possible.0
-
The 5th edition appears to have been introduced in 2011. Previously as kingstreet said, the previous (4th) edition left liability with the seller.
5th edition says:
http://www.lawsociety.org.uk/support-services/advice/articles/standard-conditions-of-sale/
Not that many buyers actually read the contract before they sign.........5. RISK, INSURANCE AND OCCUPATION PENDING COMPLETION
5.1.1 The property is at the risk of the buyer from the date of the contract
5.1.2 The seller is under no obligation to the buyer to insure the property unless:
(a) the contract provides that a policy effected by or for the seller and insuring the
property or any part of it against liability for loss or damage is to continue in force, or
(b) the property or any part of it is let on terms under which the seller (whether as
landlord or as tenant) is obliged to insure against loss or damage.0
This discussion has been closed.
Confirm your email address to Create Threads and Reply
Categories
- All Categories
- 352.9K Banking & Borrowing
- 253.9K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
- 454.7K Spending & Discounts
- 246K Work, Benefits & Business
- 602.1K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
- 177.8K Life & Family
- 259.9K Travel & Transport
- 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
- 16K Discuss & Feedback
- 37.7K Read-Only Boards