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  • bsod
    bsod Posts: 1,225 Forumite
    edited 24 February 2017 at 8:54PM
    reinstalling Windows 7 will be more effective than pagefile adjustments, ccleaner registry entry removal, and searching endlessly for an answer to the mystery, though a chkdsk might be a good idea - a 30 second stall may produce an event log entry

    windows7 works with 2GB of ram, you may want to try a different browser and antivirus - chrome and defender are both grabbing a lot of ram, and turn off windows update to see if the problem improves
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  • keith969
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    edited 24 February 2017 at 8:44PM
    were wrote: »
    why so many chrome entries?

    Chrome runs each tab in a separate process (in fact plugins as well) so if one crashes it does not take down the parent process. Also, when you close a tab because the process is killed, the memory is reclaimed. Unlike single-process browsers...
    For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple and wrong.
  • bsod wrote: »
    reinstalling Windows 7 will be more effective than pagefile adjustments, ccleaner registry entry removal, and searching endlessly for an answer to the mystery, though a chkdsk might be a good idea - a 30 second stall may produce an event log entry

    windows7 works with 2GB of ram, you may want to try a different browser and antivirus - chrome and defender are both grabbing a lot of ram, and turn off windows update to see if the problem improves

    Yeah it will work with 2GB but not optimally and forget about multitasking with more than one tab open at a time in the browser. Having an AV also running sucks up precious ram and there is very little to begin with in this laptop.

    The quickest way to improve things is installing more ram rather than switching off this and that. I do recommend having only essential stuff running at startup and so on but that can only do so much to improve things when the very likely culprit here is the lack of ram (and I say this looking at the task manager stats clearly showing the ram is saturated).
  • bsod
    bsod Posts: 1,225 Forumite
    edited 24 February 2017 at 10:06PM
    Optimally is using what you've got well - I don't experience 30 second hangups or have problems multitasking or running antivirus with a multi-tabbed browser and Word and Excel and Ccleaner simultaneously in 2GB. Their task manager picture would look very different without chrome/defender/windows installer running

    It's all academic - they've ordered the ram.
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  • EdwardB
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    edited 24 February 2017 at 11:12PM
    As you have so little memory you need to cut back on the tasks that run in background, there are three places you need to check.

    1. MSConfig Startup
    2. Services
    3. Task Scheduler

    Press Win key and R then type in MSConfig and select startup tab, untick all.

    For services, right click my computer and select manage, stop and disable any update tasks, typical ones are two from Google Chrome, Skype, Flash, Java and any others you see that are update

    Click start menu and start typing scheduler and Task Scheduler will appear. Leave the Microsoft ones, disable any from Apple or Google plus any that look as if added by non windows software.

    Turn Windows update off so you choose what and when to update.

    I have seen this dozens of times and it is usually items competing for resource, often network resource, a big file can swap the bandwidth.

    However to see what is actually going on, hit Task Manager, click on performance tab and click on resource manager, on disk you look at writes, on memory you want to check what is using most and how much it is using, maybe end those chrome tabs.

    I would end those two java apps from task manager and see what happens, then maybe a reboot, a memory upgrade does seem on the cards.

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    Also set your AV to not check every file that is opened, only new ones downloaded.

    I hope you ordered a 4gb module.
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  • EdwardB
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    bsod wrote: »
    reinstalling Windows 7 will be more effective than pagefile adjustments, ccleaner registry entry removal, and searching endlessly for an answer to the mystery, though a chkdsk might be a good idea - a 30 second stall may produce an event log entry

    windows7 works with 2GB of ram, you may want to try a different browser and antivirus - chrome and defender are both grabbing a lot of ram, and turn off windows update to see if the problem improves

    I can't agree with this.

    Windows is not corrupt.

    If you reinstalled windows every time you had a problem how would you ever figure out what was going wrong!

    Windows runs like a dog in 2gb of ram, sure it can be done but not with apps.
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  • AndyPix
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    Bsod your answer to everything is to reinstall.


    It should not be performing the way that it is doing, regardless of 2G ram.


    OP As one user correctly mentioned above, you have a program leaking memory here.
    Open the task manager when its happening (being slow) like you did above, but this time order the list in order of memory first. To do this actually click on the heading of the column titled Memory.


    Send us a screen dump of the top few.
    You can add more RAM, but all that will do is increase the time it takes the problem to occur, a program leaking memory will keep doing it until it runs out of memory to snatch.


    Andy
  • bsod
    bsod Posts: 1,225 Forumite
    edited 24 February 2017 at 11:49PM
    EdwardB wrote: »
    I can't agree with this.

    It doesn't surprise me, perhaps understanding it first would help

    andypix, I asked you to leave me alone

    if you both want to waste the op's time, leave me out of it
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  • EdwardB
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    AndyPix wrote: »
    Bsod your answer to everything is to reinstall.

    It should not be performing the way that it is doing, regardless of 2G ram.

    OP As one user correctly mentioned above, you have a program leaking memory here.
    Open the task manager when its happening (being slow) like you did above, but this time order the list in order of memory first. To do this actually click on the heading of the column titled Memory.

    Send us a screen dump of the top few.

    You can add more RAM, but all that will do is increase the time it takes the problem to occur, a program leaking memory will keep doing it until it runs out of memory to snatch.

    Andy

    I have seen this so many times with win update.

    OP already posted what apps are running.

    There is a conflict going on

    As the updates are written the AV is checking them

    System is right on the boundary of memory and can't seem to page out memory

    When I have seen this, after turning off the things I said above I found it was an issue with WinUpdate and had to do them a few at a time till I figured out which.

    The 4gb may give some breathing room.
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  • AndyPix wrote: »
    Bsod your answer to everything is to reinstall.


    It should not be performing the way that it is doing, regardless of 2G ram.


    OP As one user correctly mentioned above, you have a program leaking memory here.
    Open the task manager when its happening (being slow) like you did above, but this time order the list in order of memory first. To do this actually click on the heading of the column titled Memory.


    Send us a screen dump of the top few.
    You can add more RAM, but all that will do is increase the time it takes the problem to occur, a program leaking memory will keep doing it until it runs out of memory to snatch.


    Andy
    post#1 perhaps , but hey guys argue with yourselves
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