PIP - 16-64. What happens at 65?

liketoknow

I have just started the ball rolling to try and get PIP. Not holding out much hope after reading posts on here but I do have mobility problems which affect my normal way of life, so fingers crossed.
I have just turned 64 a few days ago, if I am lucky enough to get it, what happens when I reach 65, does it stop?
If it carries on, people speak of having a review at the end of the period it was awarded for, how is it reviewed, do you have to have another face to face interview?
Also if you get the higher rate mobility and choose to have a mobility car, does that get taken away if you turn 65 or they change their minds at a review?
TIA

rockingbilly

liketoknow wrote: »

I have just started the ball rolling to try and get PIP. Not holding out much hope after reading posts on here but I do have mobility problems which affect my normal way of life, so fingers crossed.
I have just turned 64 a few days ago, if I am lucky enough to get it, what happens when I reach 65, does it stop?
If it carries on, people speak of having a review at the end of the period it was awarded for, how is it reviewed, do you have to have another face to face interview?
Also if you get the higher rate mobility and choose to have a mobility car, does that get taken away if you turn 65 or they change their minds at a review?
TIA

For a new claim you have less than a 1 in 2 chance of getting an award.
If you do get an award it will generally be for a fixed period. 12 months before the end date you will be asked if you want to renew the claim. It doesn't matter if you are over 65. The rule for age is that you must make a claim before your 65th birthday.
At the review it is likely that you will have to go through another face to face assessment.
If at any time you lose the Enhanced Mobility award then the car goes back. If you win at court on appeal and get it back then you go and get another car.
These re-assessments will continue for as long as you get an award even if you are 90.

The question is - is right, fair and proper that people who are 65+ should be treated this way bearing in mind that PIP is for people of working age?

teddysmum

But working age is rising and will soon be over 65.

liketoknow

I am 64 but I am still working, I could have retired January of last year but chose to carry on. I live on my own, my hours are flexible and it gives me something to do, plus, I can't afford to retire. I know others who won't be able to retire until they are 66.

Mrs_Ryan

My mum is 67 and she's just had her PIP form through which I've done for her. She had a lifetime award of high rate care and mobility and seeing the state that this form has left her in I'm pretty disgusted. My mum is a tough old bird but this has broken her. My dad will be left alone as he was over 70 at the cut off date so he will keep his DLA for the rest of his life (he's nearly 76 and in very poor health so I don't think that will be all that long sadly) but mum missed it by a few months.

pmlindyloo

Have you looked at the criteria for PIP?

Here is a useful link:

https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/benefits/sick-or-disabled-people-and-carers/pip/

Alternatively you could go to CAB and ask them to do a pre-assessment to see if they think you may qualify.

Have you got medical evidence to support your claim?

You could also put your details into the benefit calculator here:

https://www.entitledto.co.uk

to see if you qualify for any other benefits. If you are working 16+ hours a week and on a low income you may be eligible for working tax credits and perhaps council tax reduction. Or if you stopped work you may qualify for Pension Credit.

CAB could also do a full benefits check for you.

I understand that you don't want to give up working but it may reassure you to know that there may be help for you in the future (if the rules don't change!)

rockingbilly

Mrs_Ryan wrote: »

My mum is 67 and she's just had her PIP form through which I've done for her. She had a lifetime award of high rate care and mobility and seeing the state that this form has left her in I'm pretty disgusted. My mum is a tough old bird but this has broken her. My dad will be left alone as he was over 70 at the cut off date so he will keep his DLA for the rest of his life (he's nearly 76 and in very poor health so I don't think that will be all that long sadly) but mum missed it by a few months.

I am in a similar situation, aged 68 in June. My wife gets Attendance Allowance as she is over the age for PIP and I currently get indefinite DLA - High Mobility & Middle Care. I'm useless at filling in forms so as I couldn't get an appointment to see Welfare Rights before the form was due back - due by the 5th Feb appointment was for the 17th Feb, I had to have the DWP/JC+ help me fill it out. I did ask for an extension of time and they would only give 7 days which made it the 12th Feb, still 5 days out.
From what they put on the form and told me that there is no need to look/ask for evidence it was sent off with old evidence (up to 5 years old) and that they put on it that I want a face to face assessment at their centre.
I doubt very much that I will get any PIP award and cannot face the appeal process.

Just hope that you are successful.

liketoknow

pmlindyloo - I have answered the questions on here that are relevant to me and keep getting a score of standard rate for daily living and enhanced rate for mobility so as long as the face to face interviewer sees the same as me, I would be ok. www.pip-assessment.support

I understand there is a long wait to see a CAB rep.

I do get WTC as I work over 16hrs a week and low income, have to be s/e as could not do regular hours and most jobs would not be suitable as I could not stand/sit/walk about for long. As my condition as deteriorated a lot lately, I can do less. I am luckily enough able to still carry on but things are getting harder and I don't want to retire until I have to.
I have not tried council tax benefit, but I don't think I qualify as no adaptations have been made - don't need any, I don't like having to claim benefits really, but a friend said they thought I would qualify for PIP and it would relieve some pressure.
I live on my own and my income is all that is coming in.

I forgot to say, I am seeing a physio next week.

Thanks for your help.

rockingbilly

liketoknow wrote: »

pmlindyloo - I have answered the questions on here that are relevant to me and keep getting a score of standard rate for daily living and enhanced rate for mobility so as long as the face to face interviewer sees the same as me, I would be ok. www.pip-assessment.support

I understand there is a long wait to see a CAB rep.

I do get WTC as I work over 16hrs a week and low income, have to be s/e as could not do regular hours and most jobs would not be suitable as I could not stand/sit/walk about for long. As my condition as deteriorated a lot lately, I can do less. I am luckily enough able to still carry on but things are getting harder and I don't want to retire until I have to.
I have not tried council tax benefit, but I don't think I qualify as no adaptations have been made - don't need any, I don't like having to claim benefits really, but a friend said they thought I would qualify for PIP and it would relieve some pressure.
I live on my own and my income is all that is coming in.

I forgot to say, I am seeing a physio next week.

Thanks for your help.

In my area you have to go and get registered with the CAB telling them what help you need. Then you have to go home and wait for them to contact you with a time and date you should go back.
I first contacted them on the 16th January, the same day that I received the PIP2 claim form. The form had to be back by the 5th Feb. I got an extension to that date to the 12th Feb. As at today I have still heard nothing from the CAB about someone helping me.
I did contact another Welfare Rights charity and they offered me 10am 17th Feb. This was still too late to get the help I needed by the 10th Feb. I had to go to the local Jobcentre at the end of the day to get help.
As I have said before you have less than a 50% chance of getting PIP. So don't expect too much as you can appeal to the Tribunal Court.

NeilCr

liketoknow wrote: »

I have just started the ball rolling to try and get PIP.

I understand there is a long wait to see a CAB rep.

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When you say you have got the ball rolling have you got the PIP form yet and, if so, have you a date for getting it back

If you have it would be worth contacting CAB to explain this and see if they can fit you in within the timescale. Where I am we will always try and do that but, obviously, the more notice the better

Even if they can't if they give you an appointment beyond the date try contacting DWP and asking for an extension - saying that it is to give you time to get help with form completion. In my experience they are usually quite flexible with this (others have different takes but it certainly is worth a try)

If you haven't got a timescale yet contact CAB and get some sense of their situation and how to get an appointment

The best of luck!

liketoknow

Thank you Neilcr.
I haven't got the form yet, I rang to get one but they said I had to have them fill in the first bit so we did that on the phone. This was on Thursday, they said it could take two weeks before I get the form. I rang my doctor to tell him I was going to apply for it and he said they will send him a form to fill in, he knows I have an appointment with a physio in a couple of weeks so will probably wait until he gets information from them before filling it in. I have osteo arthritis.
I have a friend who used to be a carer and she has helped people fill the form in, she has said she will go with me to the assessment if I want her to, she does help me with things I can't do.