excel parking ticket

twinnies6

hi i was using my sons car i am named driver on his insurance. i was doing my shopping in iceland i never got a pay and display ticket as i forgot. when i came out i had parking ticket on windscreen from excel parking, everyone keeps telling me i dont have to pay it. my son is registered keeper and he got a letter off them yesterday saying parking charge notice to keeper. i have a shopping receipt to prove i was actually in shop at time of ticket. i came out of shop 10 mins after receiving the ticket. shall i pay ticket cause i never payed and displayed, any advice is appreciated thankyou

sharon

Redx

please read the IPC advice in the NEWBIES sticky thread near the top of this forum

although its a lot to take in for a newbies, the advice is all laid out in there including appeal templates for the initial appeal

but now they have you on the hook they wont let go until you have provided them with lots of cash

you dont have to pay a penny unless a judge says so, but try and get a landholder cancellation, that is your best waty to quash it

so "everybody" is wrong

if a judge (in court) determines that you have to pay, you have to pay , its that simple

EXCEL have 6 years to try a court case , under the MCOL system

Coupon-mad

twinnies6 wrote: »

hi i was using my sons car i am named driver on his insurance. i was doing my shopping in iceland i never got a pay and display ticket as i forgot. when i came out i had parking ticket on windscreen from excel parking,

everyone keeps telling me i dont have to pay it.

my son is registered keeper and he got a letter off them yesterday saying parking charge notice to keeper. i have a shopping receipt to prove i was actually in shop at time of ticket. i came out of shop 10 mins after receiving the ticket. shall i pay ticket cause i never payed and displayed, any advice is appreciated thankyou

sharon

Sharon, Excel sue people all the time now, so ''everyone'' (on Facebook?!) are wrong if they are saying to ignore it.

We are not telling you to pay Excel though.

Read the sticky thread, that's why it was at the top when you hit 'new thread', instead of reading 'NEWBIES PLEASE READ THESE FAQS FIRST'.

twinnies6

hi

thanks for replying but i got baffled by all the threads i didnt know which one to go for

Coupon-mad

So you read the one saying 'NEWBIES PLEASE READ THESE FAQS FIRST'...

Lamilad

Reading this makes me wonder:

if the RK names the driver and that person admits being the driver but refuses to pay, for whatever reason (poor signage, no contract, no locus standi etc) Would Excel take the driver to court or continue to pursue the RK?

Their NTK's say that if the RK names the driver but gives false details or they don't pay then they'll come back to the RK for payment.

But they wouldn't have a chance in court then because
A) they don't comply with PoFA so no keeper liability
the RK would have rock solid proof they weren't the driver

Excel don't say they will continue to pursue the driver in the event of non payment even if the contravention is admitted so I wonder if they'd take them to court or focus on the RK?

For the record I'm not recommending anyone try this course of action but I'd be interested to if anyone knows of a PPC taking the driver rather than the RK to court?

Guys_Dad

First things first. Take your receipt into the supermarket. Ask to see the duty manager. No one else.

Ask him/her to arrange cancellation.

See if that works, whilst at the same time your son needs to be making an appeal to the PPC.

It probably won't be accepted and certainly an appeal to the IPC/IAS will be rejected.

They can then either huff and puff with toothless debt collector threats or instigate court proceedings, where we can help, but will need you to do some work.

beamerguy

Lamilad wrote: »

Reading this makes me wonder:

if the RK names the driver and that person admits being the driver but refuses to pay, for whatever reason (poor signage, no contract, no locus standi etc) Would Excel take the driver to court or continue to pursue the RK?

Their NTK's say that if the RK names the driver but gives false details or they don't pay then they'll come back to the RK for payment.

But they wouldn't have a chance in court then because
A) they don't comply with PoFA so no keeper liability
the RK would have rock solid proof they weren't the driver

Excel don't say they will continue to pursue the driver in the event of non payment even if the contravention is admitted so I wonder if they'd take them to court or focus on the RK?

For the record I'm not recommending anyone try this course of action but I'd be interested to if anyone knows of a PPC taking the driver rather than the RK to court?

If the driver is named by the RK, then this is what Excel want and this is why they keep failing as they cannot prove it.

The judge DJ Lateef (Excel v Ms X. Stockport 2016/17) suggested that the case could not continue and asked the Claimant's solicitor to agree they would not pursue Keeper Liability.

Read between the lines on that.
Was it because Simon Renshaw-Smith of Excel blasted DJ Lateef as a terrible judge ?
Was it because DJ Lateef has seen through the scam

Very doubtful that Excel would ever win in front of DJ Lateef or any other judge who know of SRS's tantrums and throwing his toys from his pram.

Right now Excel will have many unpaid tickets and then BWLegal step in to issue Roboclaims probably without having a clue what happened in the first place. This is where BWLegal fail

We will see many more Excel failures in court as they have marked their card and if Renshaw-Smith does not see the writing on the wall, he had better get back in his pram and continue throwing his toys out

Coupon-mad

Lamilad wrote: »

Reading this makes me wonder:

if the RK names the driver and that person admits being the driver but refuses to pay, for whatever reason (poor signage, no contract, no locus standi etc) Would Excel take the driver to court or continue to pursue the RK?

Their NTK's say that if the RK names the driver but gives false details or they don't pay then they'll come back to the RK for payment.

But they wouldn't have a chance in court then because
A) they don't comply with PoFA so no keeper liability
the RK would have rock solid proof they weren't the driver

Excel don't say they will continue to pursue the driver in the event of non payment even if the contravention is admitted so I wonder if they'd take them to court or focus on the RK?

For the record I'm not recommending anyone try this course of action but I'd be interested to if anyone knows of a PPC taking the driver rather than the RK to court?

Excel would pursue the driver, lamilad, as that's easier for them. Yep we have seen them and other gleeful PPCs do so, when handed the driver's details from a hapless keeper.