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Section 75 claims

We're in dispute over some poor quality holiday accommodation paid for with our credit card.

The payment was via a booking agent, whose web site, photos and description we relied upon. It seems to us to be a clear misreprsentation by the agent

I've seen that payments via an gent are excluded from s.75 claims,. but I've also seen the following advice on this site:

'You're unlikely to be covered when payments are made to a company that isn't the one providing you with the product or service. In these cases, the credit card company usually says it didn't have a direct relationship with the supplier, so isn't equally liable.

If you stand your ground, it's possible to argue that the indirect relationship constitutes an arrangement to pay. The Court of Appeal decided this was acceptable in 2006, but it's unlikely to be an easy task.'

Anyone know what the score is?

Comments

  • What does the agent say?

    Have you got evidence of the breach of contract?
  • dprc
    dprc Posts: 5 Forumite
    Lots of photos evidencing lack of cleaning, mould and broken fittings.tiles etc. Also various notes re numerous plumbing and wiring faults etc.
  • Nasqueron
    Nasqueron Posts: 11,287 Forumite
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    Just to clarify, have you tried complaining to the firm (and perhaps using one of those consumer champions in the papers / raising the issue on the firm's social media accounts) or have you gone direct to S75?

    Sam Vimes' Boots Theory of Socioeconomic Unfairness: 

    People are rich because they spend less money. A poor man buys $10 boots that last a season or two before he's walking in wet shoes and has to buy another pair. A rich man buys $50 boots that are made better and give him 10 years of dry feet. The poor man has spent $100 over those 10 years and still has wet feet.

  • dprc
    dprc Posts: 5 Forumite
    Complained to agent, who are trying to avoid responsibility, and also lodged the details with the credit card co.
  • bris
    bris Posts: 10,548 Forumite
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    Did you stay or move out and find somewhere else after giving the accommodation owner the chance to put it right?


    If you stayed then your options are limited as you accepted the accommodation.


    The best you can hope for is a claim for loss of enjoyment but that is a hard thing to quantify. A S75 claim would be rejected on this basis but if you can put a compensation figure to the agent then they may consider it, or take it to court, if S75 is available to you then you can sue them both together.
  • dprc
    dprc Posts: 5 Forumite
    Thanks for relies, so far. Just want to be clear about the 'agent' side of things, if anyone knows. Particularly re the second paragraph below:

    "You're unlikely to be covered when payments are made to a company that isn't the one providing you with the product or service. In these cases, the credit card company usually says it didn't have a direct relationship with the supplier, so isn't equally liable.

    If you stand your ground, it's possible to argue that the indirect relationship constitutes an arrangement to pay. The Court of Appeal decided this was acceptable in 2006, but it's unlikely to be an easy task."
  • Have you got the funds to go back to the court of appeal?

    How much exactly are you wanting to claim?
    Did you complain whilst you are there?

    Is the agent an ABTA member?
  • dprc
    dprc Posts: 5 Forumite
    No plans to go to the Court of Appeal ;-), just trying to find the ruling referred to.

    No to ABTA and around £1250.
  • bris
    bris Posts: 10,548 Forumite
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    dprc wrote: »
    No plans to go to the Court of Appeal ;-), just trying to find the ruling referred to.

    No to ABTA and around £1250.
    £1250 for what? You haven't answered the most important questions, did you stay? Did you give them a chance to put it right?


    You can't just go on holiday, come home with a few pictures and expect your money back.


    You need to follow certain procedures for this, the actions you take at the time go a long way to proving a breach of contract.
  • eskbanker
    eskbanker Posts: 40,272 Forumite
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    dprc wrote: »
    No plans to go to the Court of Appeal ;-), just trying to find the ruling referred to.
    I believe it's this one: https://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/ld200607/ldjudgmt/jd071031/lloyds-1.htm
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