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Unfair PCN in Eastleigh - HELP
Rachpw
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Hi, as registered keeper of a car we have just received a PCN from Premier Park for supposedly parking at the back of Pampurred Pets in Eastleigh after 6pm one evening. The PCN from Premier Park shows 2 very poor photos taken at the same time, so no evidence of how long the parking offence was for - The car could have been using the space to turn around in for that matter.
Anyway, how can we fight this case? I have done lots of reading tonight on the internet and advice varies from do nothing - even if they threaten, they won't actually take you to court. Send in some nominal amount as full and final settlement, or use the MSE standard letter of appeal for BPA registered companies. I am thinking that given all they can reasonable reclaim in these types of parking fines is their damages/losses - in this instance there were none. There was no advertised charge for parking here, it was for customers of a specific shop, which was closed. Any help greatly appreciated as I do not want to pay £60!!! Thanks.
Anyway, how can we fight this case? I have done lots of reading tonight on the internet and advice varies from do nothing - even if they threaten, they won't actually take you to court. Send in some nominal amount as full and final settlement, or use the MSE standard letter of appeal for BPA registered companies. I am thinking that given all they can reasonable reclaim in these types of parking fines is their damages/losses - in this instance there were none. There was no advertised charge for parking here, it was for customers of a specific shop, which was closed. Any help greatly appreciated as I do not want to pay £60!!! Thanks.
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use the MSE standard letter of appeal for BPA registered companies.
https://bmpa.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/203719941-Premier-Park-Ltd
and YES they are active in court
http://www.bmpa.eu/companydata/Premier_Park.html
as there are quite a few companies with the name "premier" , confirm its the same company0 -
First edit your post to remove all the admissions on who was driving.
Then follow the advice in the newbies FAQ thread near the top of the forum (ignore the other advice you have read telling you to ignore!)0 -
Please read the Newbies Sticky and inform yourself properly - the need to do this was all explained as part of your signup.
Don't waste your time and ours with incompetent/out of date info.0 -
Not sure if your incompetent reference is meant for me but I came to this site because I am looking for advice and help. I also think that my ticket is slightly different because the only photo evidence they have supplied is 2 photos taken at the same time and in one photo all you can see is 2 headlights that could belong to any car.0
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There was a sign saying Private Parking or something,
and you call helpers on this site " incompetent"
you have been asked to clarify the name of the company , so that people can tell you the ATA that the company is in , and you have a link with all questions answered
enjoy , bye0 -
Hate to tell you this, but what you have is whats pretty standard in the world of private parking, which at times even goes as far as altering time stamps on photos in order to issue charges.
Replies on here may seem abrupt, blunt and sometimes rude, but they are usually to the point, the aim is for you not to part with your money, and possibly come out of it better informed so you can possibly help others as well.
when referring to parking incidents its best not to give away the driver, or any clue as to who the driver was, instead of words like I, He, she, brother, uncle, sister, father etc use non descript terms like the vehicle parked, you were offered advice to edit your post, i would suggest you do so, while some information is needed to adequately assist, keeping who was driving out of the equation gives parking companies another hurdle to jump
As you should have been able to guess parking companies can make things up as they go, the industry is unregulated and pretty much does as it pleases.
Also Calling posters on here who give up their own free time incompetent will not go down well
Heres some advice:
the MSE standard letter is for want of a better word utter garbage, plus by using it you could be putting yourself at risk, this has been commented on here plenty of times, the best advice is n the newbies (sticky) thread
Since the introduction of the Protection of freedoms act, and the "beavis case" parking companies have been taking many motorists to court, they have upto 6 years to do this, a lot can change in that time scale, and some will even start court proceedings issuing papers to old address, the victim first knowledge of this is a CCJ when they try and apply for a loan/phone/mortgage etcven if they threaten, they won't actually take you to court. Send in some nominal amount as full and final settlement, or use the MSE standard letter of appeal for BPA registered companies. I am thinking that given all they can reasonable reclaim in these tyes of parking fines is their damages/losses - in this instance there were none
I dont mean to scare you, however if you go onto this the right way and well informed you pay nothing, go into it in a huff, stabbing around in the dark using old out of date advice and it could cost you dear.
The correct advice is here, please bring the correct attitudeFrom the Plain Language Commission:
"The BPA has surely become one of the most socially dangerous organisations in the UK"0 -
Unless the OP has deleted an entire post, I can't see where anyone has been called 'incompetent'.Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .
I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.
Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.#Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street0 -
Thank you so much. Be assured I wasn't calling anyone 'incompetent' but the second person who responded to my original post used the word and I was genuinely confused because I wasn't aware that I was being incompetent. Thank you for your response. However, given that there isn't a photo of the car parked or any time reference to how long the car was parked how can they treat this as a Parking Charge Notice? I really would be incredibly grateful for any help. I have amended my original post but I will review again if you think it is still incriminating.0
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I have edited my original post.0
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the company do NOT HAVE to take photos
was there a ticket on the car or was it ANPR method
date of incident
date first written letter by PPC ?
Edit , you have been given info via another website , use that info0
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